Brother Dimond: Thank you for being on the program Coast to Coast am. You are steadfast in your defense of the true catholic church. I am currently attending a Triditine Mass at a church in Orlando whose priest is ordained by a "Thuc Line Bishop". Do you consider the 'Thuc line' ordinations valid? Am I attending a legitimate Mass? Prayerfully awaiting your reply. Jack Bryant, Orlando, Florida.
Yes, the Thuc line is valid. The priests ordained in the traditional rite of ordination by Thuc bishops must be considered validly ordained. There are no legitimate grounds upon which to question the validity. However, since almost all of even the traditionalist priests hold some views not consistent with Catholic teaching – such as that non-Catholics can be saved, etc. – you almost certainly cannot support the priest, though you could receive the sacraments from him without supporting him, provided he is not imposing or notorious about his heresy.
Your points are well taken. Thanks for your helpful independent views. Re my question about the validity of Abp Thuc consecrations: What is your informed view? Is Bishop [x] validly consecrated since he is in succession from Abp Thuc? Thanks for your refreshing insights! -Paul M.
Paul, despite the claims of some “traditionalists,” especially the SSPV supporters, the fact is that the validity of the Thuc-line cannot be questioned. If it can be questioned, then any Episcopal Consecration or Ordination performed in the Traditional Rite can be questioned. We certainly have no bias in this matter, since we have no affiliation with the Thuc-line whatsoever. The facts are the facts. The Ordinations and Consecrations performed in the Traditional Rite by Archbishop Thuc and those whom he Consecrated must be considered valid, because when the Traditional Rite is observed the intention is presumed valid, as Pope Leo XIII says in Apostolicae Curae. Further, there is no evidence that Bishop Thuc did not possess his mental faculties at the time of these Consecrations, even if some of his decisions were wacky. We know someone who knew and spent time with Bishop Thuc in New York just before his death, and he said that he was very lucid.