A Response to the Attack on Sedevacantism in The Fatima Crusader, Catholic Family News and The Remnant

 

- Opposing the False Traditionalist Enterprise and its easily refuted attack on faithful Catholics and Catholic doctrine–

 

By Bro. Peter Dimond, O.S.B.

–Part 1

-THE FATIMA CRUSADER AND CATHOLIC FAMILY NEWS CONDEMN THEMSELVES OUT OF THEIR OWN PUBLICATION

- NO HERESY FROM JOHN PAUL II OR PAUL VI?  A LESSON FOR MR. FERRARA ON WHAT CONSTITUTES “MANIFEST HERESY”

 

-Part 2- (click here)

 

Boy, that sedevacantist position is absurd, ain’t it” – as they document how another Eastern Schismatic, such as Father Linus Dragu Popian, was specifically told not to convert to the Catholic Faith by the Vatican.

 

-THE “MADNESS” AND “ABSURDITY” OF SEDEVACANTISM VS. THE MADNESS AND ABSURDITY OF THE VATICAN II SECT

-FERRARA ON THE SEDEVANTIST POSITION AND VATICAN I

-FR. EDMUND JAMES O’REILLY CRUSHES FERRARA’S MAIN ARGUMENT ON THE LENGTH OF A PAPAL INTERREGNUM BY TEACHING THAT THE CHURCH CAN EXIST DECADES WITHOUT A POPE

-ANSWERS TO SPECIFIC PASSAGES FROM VATICAN I CITED BY MR. FERRARA AND THE ABSURDITY OF A “POPE” WHO DOESN’T BELIEVE IN VATICAN I

-BENEDICT XVI COMPLETELY REJECTS THIS CANON AND VATICAN I

 

-Part 3- (click here)

-THE ARGUMENT FROM MARTIN LUTHER AND THE “SIXTY DAYS” – A TRUE DISTORTION

-FERRARA COMPLAINS THAT THE SEDEVACANTISTS ACCUSE JOHN PAUL II OF MORE HERESIES THAN LUTHER

-THE FALSE ARGUMENT FROM THE CASE OF JOHN XXII

-CONTRADICTIONS AND THE CASE OF POPE HONORIUS

-FERRARA ON THE TEACHING THAT NO ONE CAN JUDGE THE POPE

-FERRARA’S RECENT INSTALLMENT: HE DOESN’T ADDRESS SEDEVACANTIST ARGUMENTS WITH ANY SPECIFICITY

-FERRARA IS STILL ASSERTING THAT THE VATICAN II ANTIPOPES HAVEN’T TAUGHT ANY HERESY!

-FERRARA DOESN’T ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THE PUBLICATIONS HE WRITES FOR AND ENDORSES PROVE THE VERY POSITION THAT HE IS ATTACKING

-FERRARA ATTEMPTS TO JUSTIFY THE POSITION OF THE SSPX, WHO IS COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF HIS “POPE,” THUS PROVING THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DOESN’T EXIST UNDER BENEDICT XVI

-FERRARA BRINGS UP A DISHONEST STRAW MAN: THE CASSICIACUM THESIS

 

–Part 4 –

-FERRARA SAYS CHURCH TEACHING AGAINST RELIGIOUS LIBERTY WHICH VATICAN II CONTRADICTS IS NOT A DEFINED DOGMA – COMPLETELY WRONG

-FERRARA NOW CONCEDES THAT VATICAN II HAS CONDEMNABLE ERRORS

- FERRARA SAYS THERE IS NO HERESY FROM THE CONCILIAR “POPES” BECAUSE THEIR STATEMENTS ARE AMBIGUOUS OR REQUIRE COMMENTARY – COMPLETELY WRONG AGAIN

-CHRIS FERRARA VS. POPE PIUS VI ON AMBIGUITY IN HERESY = A KNOCKOUT FOR POPE PIUS VI

-FERRARA STATES A BLATANT FALSEHOOD ON THE LOSS OF OFFICE

-FERRARA MAKES A PATHETIC ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THE MANIFEST HERESIES IN THE JOINT DECLARATION WITH THE LUTHERANS ON JUSTIFICATION; HE RELEGATES IT TO A FOOTNOTE BECAUSE IT IS INDEFENSIBLE AND HE DOESN’T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT

-FERRARA SAYS WE CANNOT SAY THE CONCILIAR “POPES” ARE HERETICS BECAUSE THEY HAVEN’T DONE WHAT KASPER HAS DONE

-POPE PAUL IV CONNECTS THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION WITH A HERETIC POSING AS THE POPE

-CONCLUSION

 

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*Emphasis in this article (including bolding, underlining and italicization, is not necessarily that of the quoted author and is usually my own).*

 

–Part 1

 

In the Summer 2005 issue of The Fatima Crusader and the August 2005 issue of Catholic Family News there appeared a major attack on sedevacantism.  Sedevacantism is derived from the Latin phrase for “empty seat.”  It describes the position of Catholics who correctly hold that the Vatican II religion is not the Catholic religion and that the men who imposed it (John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II and Benedict XVI) were and are manifest heretics and therefore not valid successors to St. Peter.

 

I will now be responding to and refuting the points made in Christopher Ferrara’s article “Opposing the Sedevacantist Enterprise.”  For those who would like more information refuting the views of Mr. Ferrara, please consult my article The Great Apostasy, not The Great Facade which reviews his book, The Great Façade.

 

THE FATIMA CRUSADER AND CATHOLIC FAMILY NEWS CONDEMN THEMSELVES OUT OF THEIR OWN PUBLICATION

 

Near the beginning of his article Mr. Ferrara notes an argument of the sedevacantists.  This argument of the sedevacantists points out that the teaching of the Vatican II sect cannot be the teaching of the Catholic Church, and therefore the hierarchy of Vatican II sect (which imposes and adheres to this false teaching) cannot be the hierarchy of the Catholic Church.

 

Chris Ferrara, “Opposing the Sedevacantist Enterprise,” Catholic Family News, August 2005, p. 1: “As we can see, the basic proposition is inherently plausible if one accepts as true the premise that (a) the ‘errors and evils’ of the ‘Vatican II changes’ were actually imposed de jure on the Church by the Pope and his ecclesiastical subordinates, who acted in areas within the scope of the Church’s infallibility, and (b) the popes and other ecclesiastics involved in the changes were manifestly guilty of the personal sin of heresy.”

 

Ferrara admits that the sedevacantist “thesis” is plausible if the premises described in (a) and (b) are true, but he rejects them as “demonstrably false.”

 

Let’s examine his claim.  It’s demonstrably false, according to Mr. Ferrara, that (a) errors and evils of the Vatican II changes were officially imposed de jure [in law] on the Church.  The question is: was the teaching of Vatican II officially imposed de jure by Paul VI on the “Church”?  The answer is: absolutely.

 

The signature of Paul VI appears at the end of every Vatican II document, with accompanying language that is clearly solemn and fulfills all the requirements even for an ex cathedra statement.

 

 EACH OF THE VATICAN II DOCUMENTS ENDS WITH THESE WORDS (OR WORDS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THESE):

 

“EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE THINGS SET FORTH IN THIS DECREE HAS WON THE CONSENT OF THE FATHERS.  WE, TOO, BY THE APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY CONFERRED ON US BY CHRIST, JOIN WITH THE VENERABLE FATHERS IN APPROVING, DECREEING, AND ESTABLISHING THESE THINGS IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND WE DIRECT THAT WHAT HAS THUS BEEN ENACTED IN SYNOD BE PUBLISHED TO GOD’S GLORY... I, PAUL, BISHOP OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.”

 

Not only that, but Paul VI used solemn language and invoked his “apostolic authority” again in his speech closing Vatican II – in order to bind all the faithful to everything decreed at Vatican II.

 

Paul VI says Vatican II is to be Religiously Observed

    

Paul VI, “Papal” Brief declaring Council Closed, Dec. 8, 1965:

“At last all which regards the holy Ecumenical Council has, with the help of God, been accomplished and ALL THE CONSTITUTIONS, DECREES, DECLARATIONS, AND VOTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE DELIBERATION OF THE SYNOD AND PROMULGATED BY US.  Therefore, we decided to close for all intents and purposes, WITH OUR APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY, this same Ecumenical Council called by our predecessor, Pope John XXIII, which opened October 11, 1962, and which was continued by us after his death.  WE DECIDE MOREOVER THAT ALL THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED SYNODALLY IS TO BE RELIGIOUSLY OBSERVED BY ALL THE FAITHFUL, for the glory of God and the dignity of the Church… WE HAVE APPROVED AND ESTABLISHED THESE THINGS, DECREEING THAT THE PRESENT LETTERS ARE AND REMAIN STABLE AND VALID, AND ARE TO HAVE LEGAL EFFECTIVENESS, so that they be disseminated and obtain full and complete effect, and so that they may be fully convalidated by those whom they concern or may concern now and in the future; and so that, as it be judged and described, ALL EFFORTS CONTRARY TO THESE THINGS BY WHOEVER OR WHATEVER AUTHORITY, KNOWINGLY OR IN IGNORANCE, BE INVALID AND WORTHLESS FROM NOW ON.  Given at Rome, at St. Peter’s, under the [seal of the] ring of the fisherman, December 8… the year 1965, the third year of our Pontificate.”

 

It is a fact, easily proven, that if Paul VI was a true Pope the teaching of Vatican II was made binding on the Church and all the faithful.  (That is why all the “traditionalist” orders under the aegis of the Conciliar Church must recognize and accept the teaching of Vatican II as legitimate to receive official approval.)  So, the next part of the question becomes: were any of these teachings of Vatican II, to which Paul VI bound the “Church,” evil, false or heretical?  If so – that is, if one can prove that heresy was officially taught by Vatican II – then premise (a) of the sedevacantist argument is proven true, and Mr. Ferrara’s claim that it is “demonstrably false” is proven to be just that – demonstrably false.

 

Well, to prove that Vatican II officially taught heresy you don’t need to consult our material; in fact, you don’t even need to consult material from another sedevacantist group.  You can consult the very issue of Catholic Family News and The Fatima Crusader in which this attack against sedevacantism was launched!  Can you say “condemned out of your own publication”?

 

John Vennari, “Vatican II vs. the Unity Willed by Christ,” [Same Issue] Catholic Family News, August, 2005, p. 15: “The journal thus admits: that Archbishop Lefebvre rejected the Council’s [Vatican II’s] ecumenism because it contradicted the clear teaching of the Magisterium that preceded it for centuries…”

 

John Vennari, “Vatican II vs. the Unity Willed by Christ,” [Same Issue] Catholic Family News, August, 2005, p. 17: “Thus, in answer to our question: Vatican II teaches a doctrine of Christian unity that is contrary to Scripture, contrary to Sacred Tradition, contrary to the express and positive will of Jesus Christ.”

 

John Vennari just declared to be true the point that Ferrara states is “demonstrably false.”  Here we see the very same issue of Catholic Family News stating unequivocally that the teaching of Vatican II (which I have already proven above – and will prove further – was imposed on “the Church” de jure by Paul VI if he was the Pope), contradicted Catholic dogma and the express teaching of Sacred Scripture.  This means that the teaching of Vatican II is heretical.  So, while Mr. Ferrara raves about how “patently absurd” the sedevacantists’ claims are (p. 19), one can literally just turn the page in the publication for which he is writing and see those claims proven true (p. 17).  But it gets worse for Mr. Ferrara, and his heretical attack on the truth.

 

Ferrara’s attack on sedevacantism (“Opposing the Sedevacantist Enterprise”) also appeared in The Fatima Crusader.  In the same issue of The Fatima Crusader we read:

 

“Fr.” Paul Kramer, “The Imminent Chastisement…”, The Fatima Crusader, [Same issue as attack on Sedevacantism] Summer 2005, p. 38: “The Decree on Ecumenism in the Second Vatican Council says that God uses those churches and Ecclesial Communities, that, as such, He uses them as means of salvation…. The Protestant religions, as such, are inspired by the devil, as Pope St. Pius V teaches in his catechism.  The new religion of Vatican II says that those diabolically inspired sects are used by God as means of salvation… The Council of Trent and Vatican II cannot both be right!  You have diametrically opposed teachings.  Only one can be true, the other false.”

 

This is very interesting indeed.  Here we have the very same issue of The Fatima Crusader (which attacks sedevacantism) clearly teaching that Vatican II’s Decree on Ecumenism is blatantly heretical.  The Fatima Crusader asserts that Vatican II’s official teaching is “diametrically opposed” to the teaching of the Catholic Church.  Remember, Mr. Ferrara stated that the sedevacantists’ claim that the official and imposed teaching of the Vatican II Church contradicts Catholic teaching is “demonstrably false.”  Well, here we have the very same issue of The Fatima Crusader proving the sedevacantist claim to be absolutely true. 

 

What more could one need to prove the point than two clear admissions (from their own publications) that Vatican II, which is the official and authoritative teaching of the Conciliar Church, cannot be the teaching of the Catholic Church, and therefore that the men who authoritatively imposed it cannot hold authority in the Catholic Church?

 

Further, please notice the language that “Fr.” Kramer (ordained in the New Rite of Ordination) uses in this issue of The Fatima Crusader.  He states: “The Council of Trent and Vatican II cannot both be right!”  I recall having read words almost identical to these somewhere; oh yes, it was in the book by “Cardinal” Ratzinger (now Benedict XVI) – the man they say we should accept as “Pope,” and follow under pain of schism.  Here is what Ratzinger (now their “Pope”) says, and compare it to the above:

 

“Cardinal” Joseph Ratzinger, now Benedict XVI, The Ratzinger Report, 1985, p. 28: “It is likewise impossible to decide in favor of Trent and Vatican I, but against Vatican II.  Whoever denies Vatican II denies the authority that upholds the other two councils and thereby detaches them from their foundation.  And this applies to the so-called ‘traditionalism’, also in its extreme forms.”

 

Let me quote them again, one after the other, so that the reader can get the full impact of this:

 

“Fr.” Paul Kramer, “The Imminent Chastisement…”, The Fatima Crusader, [Same issue as attack on Sedevacantism] Summer 2005, p. 38: “… The Council of Trent and Vatican II cannot both be right!  You have diametrically opposed teachings.  Only one can be true, the other false.”

 

“Cardinal” Joseph Ratzinger, now Benedict XVI, The Ratzinger Report, 1985, p. 28: “It is likewise impossible to decide in favor of Trent and Vatican I, but against Vatican II.  Whoever denies Vatican II denies the authority that upholds the other two councils and thereby detaches them from their foundation.  And this applies to the so-called ‘traditionalism’, also in its extreme forms.”

 

Their very own “Pope,” the one whom they are declaring it is schismatic not to recognize and submit to – writing a book as “Prefect for the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith” (that is, as chief and watchdog of correct doctrine) – states exactly the opposite of the position of The Fatima Crusader.  Ratzinger is simply acknowledging the fact that we proved above, that Vatican II was imposed de jure [in law] on the Church if Paul VI was the Pope.  Therefore, if you are not a sedevacantist you are bound to accept Vatican II and its heretical teachings, which are “diametrically opposed” to the Council of Trent, Sacred Tradition and the teaching of Jesus Christ, according to The Fatima Crusader and Catholic Family News.

 

The truth is that since Vatican II clearly rejects Magisterial Catholic teaching, which The Fatima Crusader and Catholic Family News both admit, then Paul VI could not possess the same authority (that is, the authority of the Papacy) that the Catholic Popes possessed.  He couldn’t have been a valid Pope, and The Fatima Crusader and Catholic Family News both just proved it.

 

All of this serves to prove, in striking fashion, the truth of the sedevacantist position which, faithful to the Papacy, correctly acknowledges that the Church cannot impose teachings that are directly contrary to Trent, the Magisterium and the teaching of Jesus Christ.  The non-sedevacantist, false traditionalist enterprise, on the other hand, exemplified by Catholic Family News, The Remnant and The Fatima Crusader, attacks the Papacy and holds that it can officially promulgate false teachings that contradict previous dogmatic teachings. 

 

NO HERESY FROM JOHN PAUL II OR PAUL VI?  A LESSON FOR MR. FERRARA ON WHAT CONSTITUTES “MANIFEST HERESY”

 

Chris Ferrara, “Opposing the Sedevacantist Enterprise,” Catholic Family News, August 2005, p. 21: “But the [Sedevacantist] Enterprise does not even get to first base since, as we shall see, despite its indefatigable efforts it has failed to identify any ‘manifest’ heresy among the many ambiguous pronouncements and disturbing (even scandalous) actions of John Paul II or Paul VI...”

 

No manifest heresy from John Paul II or Paul VI, eh?  No, nothing is heresy to Mr. Ferrara; it doesn’t matter what John Paul II or any of the Vatican II Antipopes utter, he would deny that it is heresy.  One example that I gave in my article on his book The Great Façade, an example which alone is sufficient to refute Mr. Ferrara, is the heresy that was repeatedly taught by John Paul II, that saints and martyrs come from non-Catholic “Churches.” 

 

John Paul II, Ut Unum Sint (# 84), May 25, 1995:

“[Speaking of non-Catholic “Churches”] Albeit in an invisible way, the communion between our Communities, even if still incomplete, is truly and solidly grounded in the full communion of the saints - those who, at end of a life faithful to grace, are in communion with Christ in glory.  These saints come from all the Churches and Ecclesial Communities WHICH GAVE THEM ENTRANCE INTO THE COMMUNION OF SALVATION.”

 

This is undeniable, clear-cut manifest heresy.  It is an article of divine and Catholic Faith that those who are not in the Catholic Church, even if they shed blood in the name of Christ, cannot be saved. 

 

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, ex cathedra:

“… no one, even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”

 

It is hard to imagine a more specific and explicit denial of this particular dogma than Ut Unum Sint #84 of John Paul II (quoted above).

 

Pope Gregory XVI, Summo Iugiter Studio, May 27, 1832:

“Finally some of these misguided people attempt to persuade themselves and others that men are not saved only in the Catholic religion, but that even heretics may attain eternal life.”

 

Also, please notice that not only does the manifest heretic John Paul II declare in Ut Unum Sint #84 that “saints” come from non-Catholic Churches (clear heresy), but he goes beyond that and declares that such non-Catholic sects “gave them” their salvation: “the Churches and Ecclesial Communities which gave them entrance into the communion of salvation.”  But, alas, even though John Paul II’s teaching is without any doubt manifest heresy (and repeated many times), Mr. Ferrara would, to his own damnation, deny that it is even heresy.

 

Mr. Ferrara needs a lesson on what constitutes heresy.  In order to be a heretic one must obstinately deny a dogma, but one doesn’t have to word-for-word deny a dogma.  For example, there is no Catholic dogma which states word-for-word that “Jesus Christ has the attributes of God.”  There are many dogmatic definitions which declare that He is God, but nothing word-for-word that Our Lord “has the attributes of God.”  Nevertheless, if I were to hold and teach that “Jesus Christ does not have the attributes of God” I would be teaching heresy, since my meaning is tantamount to (equivalent to) denying that He is God.  This is really just common sense; it really shouldn’t even have to be explained; but when heretics attack the truth, corrupt the Faith, and mislead people, such points need to be emphasized.  St. Thomas acknowledges that statements or actions equivalent to the denial of an article of Faith are also heresy:

St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Pt. II-II, Q. 11, Art. 2: “Now a thing may be of faith in two ways, as stated above, in one way, directly and principally, e.g., the articles of faith; in another way, indirectly and secondarily, e.g., those matters, the denial of which leads to the corruption of some article of faith; and there may be heresy in either way, even as there can be faith.”

With that in mind, let’s take a look at the following statement from Paul VI, the one who hasn’t been proven to have uttered manifest heresy, according to Mr. Ferrara:

 

Paul VI, General Audience to Japanese Buddhists, Sept. 5, 1973: “It is a great pleasure for us to welcome the members of the Japanese Buddhists Europe Tour, honored followers of the Soto-shu sect of Buddhism… At the Second Vatican Council the Catholic Church exhorted her sons and daughters to study and evaluate the religious traditions of mankind and to ‘learn by sincere and patient dialogue what treasures a bountiful God has distributed among the nations of the earth’ (Ad Gentes, 11)… Buddhism is one of the riches of Asia…” (L’Osservatore Romano, Sept. 13, 1973, p. 8.)

 

As anyone with any Faith knows, this is gross apostasy from Paul VI.  Even though there is no dogma that “Buddhism is not one of the riches of Asia,” Paul VI’s statement is clearly equivalent to denying the dogma that the Catholic religion is the only true religion and that the rest (including the pagan and idolatrous Buddhist religion) are false.  Paul VI is saying that a false, pagan and idolatrous religion is a good thing, which is a clear denial of an article of divine and Catholic Faith.  It is without doubt manifest heresy and anyone who denies this is a heretic.

 

Pope Pius VIII, Traditi Humilitati (# 4), May 24, 1829:

“Against these experienced sophists the people must be taught that the profession of the Catholic faith is uniquely true, as the apostle proclaims: one Lord, one faith, one baptism.  Jerome used to say it this way: he who eats the Lamb outside this house will perish as did those during the flood who were not with Noah in the ark.”

 

The fact that Paul VI was a manifest heretic (as just proven) explains why he never validly assumed the Papal Throne and why all of his acts attempting to rip apart the Catholic Church (including the promulgation of Vatican II) were not prevented by the Papal Office.  There are many other heresies from Antipope Paul VI, exposed in our DVD on him and in the article: The Amazing Heresies of Paul VI .  Here are just two more, before I must move on:

 

Paul VI, Speech, Sept. 9, 1972: “We would also like you to know that the Church recognizes the riches of the Islamic faith – a faith that binds us to the one God.” (L’Osservatore Romano, Sept. 21, 1972, p. 2.)

 

Paul VI says that the false religion of Islam is “a faith that binds us to the one God.”  This is manifest heresy.  The Catholic Church officially teaches that the false religion of Islam is “an abominable sect” of infidels which separates us from the One God and leads to damnation.

 

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Basel, Session 19, Sept. 7, 1434:

“Moreover, we trust that with God’s help another benefit will accrue to the Christian commonwealth; because from this union, once it is established, there is hope that very many from the abominable sect of Mahomet will be converted to the Catholic faith.”

 

St. Francis Xavier, May, 1546: “The evil [of Islam] was introduced by some Mahometan caicizes (ministers of religion), who came from Mecca in Arabia, where the accursed body of Mahomet is honored with great superstition.”

 

Pope Clement V, Council of Vienne, 1311-1312:

It is an insult to the holy name and a disgrace to the Christian faith that in certain parts of the world subject to Christian princes where Saracens [i.e., the followers of Islam, also called Muslims] live, sometimes apart, sometimes intermingled with Christians, the Saracen priests, commonly called Zabazala, in their temples or mosques, in which the Saracens meet to adore the infidel Mahomet, loudly invoke and extol his name each day at certain hours from a high place… This brings disrepute on our faith and gives great scandal to the faithful.  These practices cannot be tolerated without displeasing the divine majesty.  We therefore, with the sacred council’s approval, strictly forbid such practices henceforth in Christian lands.  We enjoin on Catholic princes, one and all.. They are to forbid expressly the public invocation of the sacrilegious name of Mahomet… Those who presume to act otherwise are to be so chastised by the princes for their irreverence, that others may be deterred from such boldness.”

 

Paul VI also taught that that religions “invented by man” are “noble.”  This denies the divinely revealed truth that all non-Catholic and man-made religions are false.

 

Paul VI, General Audience, Jan. 12, 1972: “…a disconcerting picture opens up before our eyes: that of religions, the religions invented by man; attempts that are sometimes extremely daring and noble…” (L’Osservatore Romano, Jan. 20, 1972, p. 1.)

 

And lest we forget, Paul VI also signed all the documents of Vatican II, which The Fatima Crusader and Catholic Family News both admit taught heresy which is “diametrically opposed” to the teaching of the Council of Trent and to Sacred Tradition.

 

–Part 2 –

 

 

THE “MADNESS” AND “ABSURDITY” OF SEDEVACANTISM VS. THE MADNESS AND ABSURDITY OF THE VATICAN II SECT

 

Christopher Ferrara’s attack on sedevacantism consists primarily in painting a picture which he hopes the reader will dismiss as too awful to accept:

 

Chris Ferrara, “Opposing the Sedevacantist Enterprise,” Catholic Family News, August 2005, p. 19: “…when all is said and done the [Sedevacantist] thesis comes down to the following claim: that since 1958 the entire membership of the Catholic Church has been adhering to a series of impostor popes and a hierarchy of impostor bishops, except a few sedevacantists who alone have noticed what is ‘manifest’ about these ecclesiastics – that they are all formal heretics.”

 

Commenting on this, Mr. Ferrara proceeds to mock it as madness.

 

Chris Ferrara, “Opposing the Sedevacantist Enterprise,” Catholic Family News, August 2005, p. 20: “‘As the late Michael Davies said with admirable succinctness: ‘Could any true Catholic, anyone with a sense of what it means to be a Catholic, give any consideration, let alone serious consideration, to such madness.’”

 

Chris Ferrara, “Opposing the Sedevacantist Enterprise,” Catholic Family News, August 2005, p. 20: “In the [Sedevacantist] Enterprise’s best publications these propositions are supported by seemingly plausible arguments and even some impressive scholarship.  But if these propositions do not belong to the category ‘patently absurd,’ then nothing does.”

 

No, Mr. Ferrara, what is madness and absurdity is a so-called ecumenical Council of the Catholic Church, solemnly approved by the “apostolic authority” of Paul VI (your “Pope”), officially teaching that the false, pagan religion of Buddhism leads to the “highest illumination.”

 

Vatican II document, Nostra aetate # 2:

In Buddhism, according to its various forms, the radical inadequacy of this changeable world is acknowledged and a way is taught whereby those with a devout and trustful spirit may be able to reach either a state of perfect freedom or, relying on their own efforts or on help from a higher source, the highest illumination.”

 

Could any Catholic with a sense of what it means to be Catholic, with any sense of what the Catholic Church teaches about pagan religions –  namely, that they worship devils (1 Cor. 10:20; Psalm 95:5) – give any consideration, let alone serious consideration, to such heretical madness or the man who solemnly promulgated it, Paul VI?

 

What is madness is the thought that the “Catholic Church” officially agreed with the Lutherans on the Doctrine of Justification, and that the Council of Trent no longer condemns the heresy of faith alone. 

 

John Paul II, Jan. 19, 2004, At a Meeting with Lutherans From Finland: “… I wish to express my gratitude for the ecumenical progress made between Catholics and Lutherans in the five years since the signing of the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification.” (L’Osservatore Romano, Jan. 28, 2004, p. 4.)

 

Could any Catholic with a sense of what it means to be Catholic give any consideration, let alone serious consideration, to such heretical and non-Catholic madness or the men who endorsed it, which includes John Paul II and Benedict XVI?

 

What is madness is the Vatican publishing books which state that Jews are perfectly free not to believe in Jesus Christ, and your very own “Pope” stating explicitly that Christ is not necessarily the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament.  The fact that this man claims to head the Church of Jesus Christ (and you defend such an absurd claim), when he doesn’t even believe in Jesus Christ, is utter madness.

 

“Cardinal” Joseph Ratzinger, God and the World, 2000, p. 209: “It is of course possible to read the Old Testament so that it is not directed toward Christ; it does not point quite unequivocally to Christ.  And if Jews cannot see the promises as being fulfilled in him, this is not just ill will on their part, but genuinely because of the obscurity of the texts and the tension in the relationship between these texts and the figure of Jesus.  Jesus brings a new meaning to these texts – yet it is he who first gives them their proper coherence and relevance and significance.  There are perfectly good reasons, then, for denying that the Old Testament refers to Christ and for saying, No, that is not what he said.  And there are also good reasons for referring it to him – that is what the dispute between Jews and Christians is about.

 

Could any Catholic with a sense of what it means to be Catholic give any consideration to such notorious apostates and their antichrist and anti-Catholic madness?  No, but you will probably tell us that this is not heresy either.

 

What is madness is Paul VI, John Paul II and Benedict XVI all having taught – in accordance with official Vatican documents such as the Balamand Statement and the public statements of the manifest heretic “Cardinal” Kasper – that Eastern Schismatics don’t need to convert and accept the Papacy for salvation.  Could any Catholic with any sense of what it means to be Catholic give any consideration to such notorious heretics or their mad non-Catholic sect? 

 

What is madness is the thought of John Paul II, a man who kissed the Koran, endorsed and facilitated idolatry (the worship of false gods) at so-called Catholic churches, had a bare-breasted woman reading the Epistle at his “Mass,” and presided over the most disgusting sex scandal among alleged “Catholic clerics” in history (just to name a few), being raised to the altar as a “Canonized Saint” of the Catholic Church.  But that’s coming soon to the Vatican II sect. 

 

What is madness, Mr. Ferrara, is that on the page of Catholic Family News (p. 18) directly adjacent to the page on which you declare sedevacantism to be “a patent absurdity,” there is an advertisement for the upcoming Catholic Family News Conference, a conference which will be featuring three “priests” (“Fr.” Gruner, Fr. Libietis of the SSPX and “Fr.” Patrick Perez), all of whom are independent priests who operate outside of communion with Benedict XVI and his hierarchy.  If sedevacantism is “madness,” and the See of Peter is occupied by Benedict XVI, why are the “priests” featured and supported in this publication for which you write working independently (i.e. outside of communion) of Benedict XVI, the “Pope”? 

 

Boy, that sedevacantism is absurd, ain’t it” – as they fill up their gas tank on Saturday evening in preparation for the two-hour trek to the independent Mass outside of Benedict’s XVI’s diocese.

 

Boy, that sedevacantist position is absurd, ain’t it” – as they prepare another article on why their independent “priest” (“Fr.” Perez, “Fr.” Gruner, “Fr. Kramer,” etc., etc., etc.) is justified in working outside or without approval of Benedict XVI’s apostate “hierarchy.”

 

Boy, that sedevacantist position is absurd, ain’t it” – as they prepare to debate a Protestant who is quoting Vatican II against them.

 

Boy, that sedevacantist position is absurd, ain’t it” – as they document how another Eastern Schismatic, such as Father Linus Dragu Popian, was specifically told not to convert to the Catholic Faith by the Vatican.

 

Boy, that sedevacantist position is absurd, ain’t it” – as they reject another “Canonization” from their “Pope.”

Chris Ferrara, The Remnant, Jan. 31, 2005, p. 4: “In any case, if the requirement of miracles is abandoned, at least we can take comfort in the probability that any resulting ‘canonizations’ of Novus Ordo heroes – and that is what the whole innovation is all about – will be subject to errorOtherwise, I, for one, reserve the right to doubt any canonization not supported by miracles.  In that doubt may lie our refuge in the dark days to come.”

You just read a quote from a layman attempting to furnish you with “good reasons” why you will be justified in rejecting the “Canonizations” declared by “the Pope.”  This is truly madness.

 

St. Alphonsus Liguori, The Great Means of Salvation and Perfection, 1759, p. 23: “To suppose that the Church can err in canonizing, is a sin, or is heresy, according to St. Bonaventure, Bellarmine, and others; or at least next door to heresy, according to Suarez, Azorius, Gotti, etc.; because the Sovereign Pontiff, according to St. Thomas, is guided by the infallible influence of the Holy Ghost in an especial way when canonizing saints.”

 

The fact that God has allowed an extended vacancy of the Papal See, and a series of Antipopes to reign from Rome in the time of the Great Apostasy, is not “a patent absurdity,” but a reality which Mr. Ferrara, his colleagues and the publications for which he writes prove by their statements, positions and actions vis-à-vis the Conciliar Church and the men heading it.

 

FERRARA ON THE SEDEVANTIST POSITION AND VATICAN I

 

A large portion of Mr. Ferrara’s article is an attempt to show that the sedevacantist “thesis” contradicts the solemn definitions of Vatican I on the perpetuity of the Papal Office.

 

Chris Ferrara, “Opposing the Sedevacantist Enterprise,” Catholic Family News, August 2005, p. 19: “Now of course there are interregnums between the death of a Pope and the election of his successor, during which the Church is temporarily without a Pope.  But the sedevacantist thesis maintains that the last five elected popes have not been popes, and there is no end in sight to its claims of papal imposture and a vacant Chair of Peter.  This idea contradicts the infallible definition and anathema of the First Vatican Council, which insisted upon the perpetuity and visibility of the papal succession.”

 

Mr. Ferrara cites nothing from Catholic teaching on how long such a vacancy could possibly be.  We know that the Church can be without a Pope for years without any infringement upon the perpetuity of the Papal Office or the visibility of the Catholic Church; so what Catholic teaching can Mr. Ferrara produce which specifically declares that such a vacancy can only last “x” years?  The answer is none.  Without a specific teaching on how long such a period could last, no one can state definitively how long God might allow it to last.  This is especially true with regard to the Great Apostasy and the final tribulation of the world, which will leave basically no Faith on earth (Luke 18:8), and which will be an apostasy that surpasses even the Arian crisis, in which a Catholic Bishop was hardly to be found.

 

Fr. William Jurgens: “At one point in the Church’s history, only a few years before Gregory’s [Nazianz] present preaching (A.D. +380), perhaps the number of Catholic bishops in possession of sees, as opposed to Arian bishops in possession of sees, was no greater than something between 1% and 3% of the total.  Had doctrine been determined by popularity, today we should all be deniers of Christ and opponents of the Spirit.” (Jurgens, The Faith of the Early Fathers, Vol. 2, p. 39.)

 

Fr. William Jurgens: “In the time of the Emperor Valens (4th century), Basil was virtually the only orthodox Bishop in all the East who succeeded in retaining charge of his see… If it has no other importance for modern man, a knowledge of the history of Arianism should demonstrate at least that the Catholic Church takes no account of popularity and numbers in shaping and maintaining doctrine: else, we should long since have had to abandon Basil and Hilary and Athanasius and Liberius and Ossius and call ourselves after Arius.” (Jurgens, The Faith of the Early Fathers, Vol. 2, p. 3.)

 

If the Arian heresy in the 4th century was so bad that almost all of the jurisdictional bishops became Arian, and the Great Apostasy preceding the Second Coming of Christ is predicted to be even worse – the worst apostasy of all time (2 Thess. 2) – that should tell us something about the extent of the apostasy that is predicted to come, and the crisis which the few remaining Catholics will face at the end.

 

Despite having no teaching to back him up, Mr. Ferrara proceeds to decide on his own that the Sedevacantist “thesis” exceeds the limits of what God would allow.  The problem for Mr. Ferrara is that eminent theologians have held that the Church can exist for decades without a Pope.

 

FR. EDMUND JAMES O’REILLY CRUSHES FERRARA’S MAIN ARGUMENT ON THE LENGTH OF A PAPAL INTERREGNUM BY TEACHING THAT THE CHURCH CAN EXIST DECADES WITHOUT A POPE

 

Fr. Edmund James O’Reilly was an eminent theologian who lived at the time of Vatican I.  Writing after Vatican I and its definitions on the perpetuity of the Papal Office, he taught that God could leave the Church without a Pope for over 35 years – e.g., during the entire span of the Great Western Schism.  Here is a quote from Father O’Reilly’s discussion of the Great Western Schism:

 

We may here stop to inquire what is to be said of the position, at that time, of the three claimants, and their rights with regard to the Papacy.  In the first place, there was all through, from the death of Gregory XI in 1378, a Pope – with the exception, of course, of the intervals between deaths and elections to fill up the vacancies thereby created.  There was, I say, at every given time a Pope, really invested with the dignity of the Vicar of Christ and Head of the Church, whatever opinions might exist among many as to his genuineness; not that an interregnum covering the whole period would have been impossible or inconsistent with the promises of Christ, for this is by no means manifest, but that, as a matter of fact, there was not such an interregnum.”(Fr. Edmund James O’Reilly, The Relations of the Church to Society – Theological Essays, 1882)

 

An interregnum is a period in which the Church has no Pope, a sede vacante period.  Fr. O’Reilly says that an interregnum covering the entire period of the Great Western Schism is by no means incompatible with the promises of Christ about His Church.  The period Fr. O’Reilly is speaking about began in 1378 with the death of Pope Gregory XI and ended essentially in 1414 when the Council of Constance assembled.  That would be a 36-year interregnum (period without a Pope). 

 

Though Fr. O’Reilly was not a Pope or a Doctor of the Church, the following should demonstrate that he was one of the most eminent theologians of the 19th Century:

 

“Cardinal Cullen, then Bishop of Armagh, chose him [Fr. O’Reilly] as his theologian at the Synod of Thurles in 1850.  Dr. Brown, bishop of Shrewsbury, chose him as his theologian at the Synod of Shrewsbury.  Dr. Furlong, bishop of Ferns and his former colleague as professor of theology at Maynooth, chose him as his theologian at the Synod of Maynooth.  He was named professor of theology at the Catholic University in Dublin on its foundation.  The General of the Society of Jesus, Fr. Beckx, proposed to appoint him professor of theology at the Roman College in Rome… At a conference held regarding the philosophical and theological studies in the Society of Jesus, he was chosen to represent all the English-speaking ‘provinces’ of the Society – that is, Ireland, England, Maryland, and other divisions of the United States.  In short, Father O’ Reilly was widely recognized as one of the most erudite and important theologians of his time.”

 

I suppose that Mr. Ferrara would tell Fr. O’Reilly that he had no sense of what it means to be Catholic.  It is obvious that Fr. O’Reilly is on the side of those who, in rejecting the Vatican II Antipopes, hold the possibility of a long-term vacancy of the Holy See.  In fact, on page 287 of his book, Fr. O’Reilly gives this prophetic warning:

 

“The great schism of the West suggests to me a reflection which I take the liberty of expressing here.  If this schism had not occurred, the hypothesis of such a thing happening would appear to many chimerical [absurd].  They would say it could not be; God would not permit the Church to come into so unhappy a situation.  Heresies might spring up and spread and last painfully long, through the fault and to the perdition of their authors and abettors, to the great distress too of the faithful, increased by actual persecution in many places where the heretics were dominant.  But that the true Church should remain between thirty and forty years without a thoroughly ascertained Head, and representative of Christ on earth, this would not be.  Yet it has been; and we have no guarantee that it will not be again, though we may fervently hope otherwise.  What I would infer is, that we must not be too ready to pronounce on what God may permit.  We know with absolute certainty that He will fulfill His promises… We may also trust that He will do a great deal more than what He has bound Himself by his promises.  We may look forward with cheering probability to exemption for the future from some of the trouble and misfortunes that have befallen in the past.  But we, or our successors in the future generations of Christians, shall perhaps see stranger evils than have yet been experienced, even before the immediate approach of that great winding up of all things on earth that will precede the day of judgment.  I am not setting up for a prophet, nor pretending to see unhappy wonders, of which I have no knowledge whatever.  All I mean to convey is that contingencies regarding the Church, not excluded by the Divine promises, cannot be regarded as practically impossible, just because they would be terrible and distressing in a very high degree.” (Fr. O’Reilly, p. 287.)

This is an excellent point.  Fr. O’Reilly explains that if the Great Western Schism had never occurred Catholics would say that such a situation (three competing claimants to the Papacy with no thoroughly ascertained head for decades) is impossible – just like those today who say that the sedevacantist “thesis” is impossible, even though the facts prove that it is true. 

 

The Great Western Schism did happen, Fr. O’Reilly says, and we have no guarantee that worse things that are not excluded by divine promises won’t happen.  There is nothing contrary to indefectibility in saying that we haven’t had a Pope since the death of Pope Pius XII 1958.  There is everything contrary to the indefectibility of the Catholic Church in asserting that true Popes could promulgate Vatican II, officially endorse false and pagan religions, promulgate the Protestant New Mass, and hold that non-Catholics don’t need to convert for salvation.  Leaving the Church without a Pope for an extended period of the Great Apostasy is the punishment inflicted by God on our generation for the wickedness of the world.

 

Prophecy of St. Nicholas of Fluh (1417-1487): “The Church will be punished because the majority of her members, high and low, will become so perverted.  The Church will sink deeper and deeper until she will at last seem to be extinguished, and the succession of Peter and the other Apostles to have expired.  But, after this, she will be victoriously exalted in the sight of all doubters.”

 

ANSWERS TO SPECIFIC PASSAGES FROM VATICAN I CITED BY MR. FERRARA – AND THE ABSURDITY OF A “POPE” WHO DOESN’T BELIEVE IN VATICAN I

 

Mr. Ferrara cites three passages from Vatican I which he thinks disprove the sedevacantist “thesis.”  I will specifically address all three of those passages.  Before I do that I must emphasize again that it is a fact that there have been long periods of time when the Church has had no Pope.  This occurred every time a Pope died (over 200 times in Church history), and it has lasted for years. 

 

Since there is no teaching which puts a limit on such a papal interregnum (a period without a Pope), and since the definitions of Vatican I on the perpetuity of Papal Office make absolutely no mention of papal vacancies or how long they can last, if the definitions on Vatican I disprove the sedevacantist thesis they also disprove the indefectibility of the Catholic Church – every single time the Church finds itself without a Pope.

 

In order to be consistent, non-sedevacantists who quote Vatican I against the sedevacantist “thesis” must argue that the Church can never be without a Pope, not even for a moment (a patent absurdity).  But this is exactly what Mr. Ferrara argues in a very interesting slip-up in his article.  This serves to reveal his profound bias and the errors at the heart of his position:

 

Chris Ferrara, “Opposing the Sedevacantist Enterprise,” Catholic Family News, August 2005, p. 19: “Never in Her history has the Church, even for a moment, been without a successor to Peter, validly elected upon the death of his validly elected predecessor.’”

 

The truth always comes out.  False teachers and heretics always expose and contradict themselves, so that the faithful will be able to identify and expose their errors.  Mr. Ferrara states that “Never” in the Church’s history, not even for a moment,” has the Church been without a successor to Peter.  This is obviously absurd and completely false.  Ferrara knows that this is false because, in the next sentence, he declares:

 

Ferrara: “Indeed, the longest interregnum between two popes in Church history was only two years and five months, between the death of Pope Nicholas IV (1292) and the election of Pope Celestine V (1294).”

 

I guess there have been quite a few “moments” in Church history that the Church has been without a Pope.  Why would he say that the Church cannot be without a Pope “even for a moment” when he knows that this is not true?

 

Certainly anyone can make a slip of the tongue or a slip of the pen, but Ferrara’s emphatic – and completely false – declaration (not “even for a moment”) reveals that he is totally biased and bent on proving a point, even to the degree of uttering the absurd.  This statement from Ferrara also serves as a striking confirmation of my point above, which is:  In order to be consistent, non-sedevacantists who quote Vatican I against the sedevacantist “thesis” would have to argue in favor of the patent absurdity that the Church can never be without a Pope. 

 

That being said, let’s look at the passages quoted by Mr. Ferrara:

 

  1. Vatican I declares that the Papacy is the Perpetual Principle and Visible Foundation of Unity

 

Vatican I, Dogmatic Constitution on the Church of Christ, Sess. 4, July 18, 1870: “But, that the episcopacy itself might be one and undivided, and that the entire multitude of the faithful through priests closely connected with one another might be preserved in the unity of faith and communion, placing Peter over the other apostles He established in him the perpetual principle and visible foundation of both unities, upon whose strength the eternal temple might be erected, and the sublimity of the Church might rise in the firmness of this faith.” (Denz. 1821)

 

That what Christ instituted in St. Peter (THE OFFICE OF PETER) is the perpetual principle and visible foundation of unity EVEN TODAY, AND ALWAYS WHEN THERE IS NO POPE, is proven every time a Catholic who is a sedevacantist converts an Eastern “Orthodox” Schismatic to the Catholic Faith. 

 

The Catholic (who is a sedevacantist) charitably informs the Eastern Schismatic that he (the Eastern Schismatic) is not in the unity of the Church because he doesn’t accept what Christ instituted in St. Peter (the office of the Papacy), in addition to not accepting what the successors of St. Peter have bindingly taught in history (the Council of Trent, etc.).  This is a clear example of how the Office of Papacy still serves – and will always serve – as the perpetual principle of visible unity, distinguishing the true faithful from the false (and the true Church from the false).  This is true when there is no Pope, and for the sedevacantist today.  This dogmatic teaching of Vatican I doesn’t exclude periods without a Pope and it is not contrary to the sedevacantist thesis in any way.

 

In fact, while this definition remains true for the sedevacantist, it must be stated clearly that THIS DEFINITION OF VATICAN I ONLY REMAINS TRUE FOR THE SEDEVACANTIST.  THIS DEFINITION OF VATICAN I ON THE PAPACY BEING THE PERPETUAL PRINCIPLE AND VISIBLE FOUNDATION OF UNITY MOST CERTAINLY IS NOT TRUE FOR THOSE UNDER BENEDICT XVI, SUCH AS MR. FERRARA.  This is because Mr. Ferrara’s own “Pope” teaches that accepting the Papacy is not essential for unity!

 

“Cardinal” Ratzinger, Principles of Catholic Theology (Ignatius Press, San Francisco, 1982), pp. 197-198: “Against this background we can now weigh the possibilities that are open to Christian ecumenism.  The maximum demands on which the search for unity must certainly founder are immediately clear.  On the part of the West, the maximum demand would be that the East recognize the primacy of the bishop of Rome in the full scope of the definition of 1870 [Vatican I] and in so doing submit in practice, to a primacy such as has been accepted by the Uniate churches.  On the part of the East, the maximum demand would be that the West declare the 1870 doctrine of primacy erroneous and in so doing submit, in practice, to a primacy such as has been accepted with the removal of the Filioque from the Creed and including the Marian dogmas of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.  As regards Protestantism, the maximum demand of the Catholic Church would be that the Protestant ecclesiological ministers be regarded as totally invalid and that Protestants be converted to Catholicism;… none of the maximum solutions offers any real hope of unity.”

 

Ratzinger (now Benedict XVI) specifically mentions, and then bluntly rejects, the traditional teaching of the Catholic Church that the Protestants and Eastern Schismatics must be converted to the Catholic Faith and accept Vatican I (“the full scope of the definition of 1870”) for unity and salvation.  He specifically rejects that the dogmatic definition of Vatican I (accepting the Papacy, etc.) is binding for Church unity.  Besides the fact that this is another clear example of manifest heresy from the Vatican II Antipopes, this proves that BENEDICT XVI (THE MAN THEY ACTUALLY CLAIM IS THE “POPE”) DENIES THE VERY DOGMA FROM VATICAN I THAT FERRARA IS CITING!  Can you perceive the madness?

 

I rest my case, and will move on.

 

2.  The Papacy will endure forever

 

Vatican I, Dogmatic Constitution on the Church of Christ, Sess. 4, Chap. 2: “Moreover, what the Chief of pastors and the Great Pastor of sheep, the Lord Jesus, established in the blessed Apostle Peter for the perpetual salvation and perennial good of the Church, this by the same Author must endure always in the Church which was founded upon a rock and will endure firm until the end of ages.” (Denz. 1824)

 

Yes, what Christ instituted in St. Peter (i.e., THE OFFICE OF THE PAPACY) must endure always until the end of ages.  What is the Office of the Papacy?  The Office of the Papacy is the office of St. Peter which is occupied by every true and lawful Bishop of Rome.  This means and guarantees that every time there is a true and valid occupant of the Office he is endowed by Christ with infallibility (in his authoritative and binding teaching capacity); he is endowed with supreme jurisdiction over the universal Church; and he is the visible head of the Church.  That remains true for every true and lawful occupant of the Papal Office until the end of time.  This doesn’t mean that the Church will always have such an occupant, as Church history and more than 200 papal vacancies prove, nor does it mean that Antipopes reigning from Rome are an impossibility (such as Antipope Anacletus II, who reigned in Rome from 1130-1138).  This definition proves nothing for the non-sedevacantist, so let’s move on.

 

3.  Peter will have perpetual successors in the Primacy over the Universal Church

 

Pope Pius IX, First Vatican Council, Sess. 4, Chap. 2, [Canon]. “If anyone then says that it is not from the institution of Christ the Lord Himself, or by divine right that the blessed Peter has perpetual successors in the primacy over the universal Church, or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in the same primacy, let him be anathema.” (Denz 1825)

This is the favorite canon of those who argue against the sedevacantist “thesis”; but, as we will see, it also proves nothing for their position.  Words and distinctions are very important.  Understanding distinctions and words can often be the very difference between Protestantism and Catholicism. 

The canon from Vatican I condemns those who deny “that Peter has perpetual successors in the primacy over the universal Church.”  This, as we have seen, does not mean and cannot mean that we will always have a Pope.  That is why it doesn’t say that “we will always have a Pope.”  Everyone admits that we didn’t have a Pope just a few months ago when Antipope John Paul II died.  So what does the canon mean?

In understanding this canon we must remember that there are schismatics who hold that St. Peter himself was given the primacy over the universal Church by Jesus Christ, but that the primacy over the universal Church stopped with St. Peter.  They hold that the Bishops of Rome aren’t successors to the same primacy that St. Peter had.  They hold that the full-blown force of the primacy doesn’t devolve [descend] to the Popes, even though they succeed St. Peter as Bishop of Rome.  Again: the “Orthodox” schismatics would admit that the Bishops of Rome are successors of St. Peter in a certain way because they succeed him as Bishops of Rome, but not successors with the same jurisdictional primacy over the universal Church which St. Peter held in his life. 

This is the heresy that is the subject of the canon above.  This heresy – which denies that a Pope is the successor of St. Peter in the same primacy perpetually (that is, every time there is a Pope until the end of time, he is a successor in the same primacy, with the same authority St. Peter possessed) – is precisely what this canon condemns.

Pope Pius IX, First Vatican Council, Sess. 4, Chap. 2, [Canon]. “If anyone then says that it is not from the institution of Christ the Lord Himself, or by divine right that the blessed Peter has perpetual successors in the primacy over the universal Church, or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in the same primacy, let him be anathema.” (Denz 1825)

When one understands this he clearly sees the meaning of this canon.  This is emphasized at the end by the words “or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in the same primacy” let him be anathema.  The canon is not declaring that we will have a Pope at all times or that there won’t be gaps, as we clearly have had.  The meaning of the canon is clear from what it says.  It condemns those who deny that Peter has perpetual successors in the primacy – that is, those who deny that every time there is a true and lawful Pope until the end of time he is a successor in the same primacy, with the same authority that St. Peter possessed.

BENEDICT XVI COMPLETELY REJECTS THIS CANON AND VATICAN I

“Cardinal” Ratzinger, Principles of Catholic Theology (1982), p. 198: “Certainly, no one who claims allegiance to Catholic theology can simply declare the doctrine of primacy null and void, especially not if he seeks to understand the objections and evaluates with an open mind the relative weight of what can be determined historically.  Nor is it possible, on the other hand, for him to regard as the only possible form and, consequently, as binding on all Christians the form this primacy has taken in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries [ed. This means the schismatics don’t have to accept Vatican I].  The symbolic gestures of Pope Paul VI and, in particular, his kneeling before the representative of the Ecumenical Patriarch [the schismatic Patriarch Athenagoras] were an attempt to express precisely this and, by such signs, to point the way out of the historical impasse... In other words, Rome must not require more from the East with respect to the doctrine of the primacy than had been formulated and was lived in the first millennium.  When the Patriarch Athenagoras [the non-Catholic, schismatic Patriarch], on July 25, 1967, on the occasion of the Pope’s visit to Phanar, designated him as the successor of St. Peter, as the most esteemed among us, as one who presides in charity, this great Church leader was expressing the ecclesial content of the doctrine of the primacy as it was known in the first millennium.  Rome need not ask for more.

Ladies and gentlemen, this means that, according to Benedict XVI, all Christians are not bound to believe in the Papacy as defined by Vatican I in 1870!  This means that the “Orthodox” schismatics are free to reject the Papacy.  This is a blatant denial of Vatican Council I by the man who claims to be “the Pope”!  Who will cry out against this abominable madness?  

Pope Pius IX, Vatican Council I, 1870, Sess. 4, Chap. 3, ex cathedra: "… all the faithful of Christ must believe that the Apostolic See and the Roman Pontiff hold primacy over the whole world, and the Pontiff of Rome himself is the successor of the blessed Peter, the chief of the apostles, and is the true vicar of Christ and head of the whole Church... Furthermore We teach and declare that the Roman Church, by the disposition of the Lord, holds the sovereignty of ordinary power over all others… This is the doctrine of Catholic truth from which no one can deviate and keep his faith and salvation." (Denz. 1826-1827)

Moreover, notice that Ratzinger (Benedict XVI) admits that Paul VI’s symbolic gestures with the schismatic Patriarch “were an attempt to express precisely this” – that is to say, his gestures (such as kneeling before the representative of the non-Catholic, schismatic Patriarch Athenagoras) expressed that the schismatics don’t have to believe in the Papacy and Vatican I!  Consider this a smashing vindication of all that we have said with regard to John Paul II’s incessant gestures toward the schismatics: giving them relics; giving them donations; praising their “Churches”; sitting on equal chairs with them; signing common declarations with them; lifting the excommunications against them. 

We pointed out again and again that these actions alone (not even considering his other statements) constituted a teaching that the schismatics don’t have to accept the dogma of the Papacy.  Countless false traditionalists and members of the Vatican II Church denied this and tried to explain these gestures away as either merely scandalous or something else, but not heretical.  Well, here we have Ratzinger – now Benedict XVI, the new “head” of the Vatican II Church – admitting “precisely” what we said.

Ratzinger (Benedict XVI) also says that the reason that we cannot expect the “Orthodox” to believe in the Papacy (the primacy of supreme jurisdiction of the Popes, not just a primacy of honor) is because it wasn’t even held in the first millennium!  Benedict XVI holds that the Papacy (the primacy of supreme jurisdiction) is just a fiction, an invention of later ages, not held in the early Church.  He says that the schismatic position of Athenagoras (which holds that the successor of St. Peter possesses a mere primacy of honor) is “the doctrine of the primacy as it was known in the first millennium” and that “Rome need not ask for more”!  Notice how directly this MANIFEST HERETIC denies the dogmatic teaching of Vatican I, which declared that in all ages the primacy of jurisdiction was recognized:

Pope Pius IX, Vatican Council I, Sess. 4, Chap. 2, ex cathedra: “Surely no one has doubt, rather all ages have known that the holy and most blessed Peter, chief and head of the apostles and pillar of faith and foundation of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom from our Lord Jesus Christ, the Savior and Redeemer of the human race; and he up to this time and always lives and presides and exercises judgment in his successors, the bishops of the holy See of Rome, which was founded by him and consecrated by his blood.  Therefore, whoever succeeds Peter in this chair, he according to the institution of Christ himself, holds the primacy of Peter over the whole Church.” (Denz. 1824)

 

But there is more… In his book Principles of Catholic Theology, Ratzinger (now Benedict XVI) not only says that the Papacy need not be accepted by the schismatics, but he also declares that the Eastern “Orthodox” position on the Bishop of Rome (i.e., their denial of the primacy of supreme jurisdiction of the Popes) may, in fact, be the true position!  Here is what he says:

 

“Cardinal” Ratzinger, Principles of Catholic Theology (1982), pp. 216-217: “Patriarch Athenagoras [the non-Catholic, schismatic Patriarch] spoke even more strongly when he greeted the Pope [Paul VI] in Phanar: ‘Against all expectation, the bishop of Rome is among us, the first among us in honor, ‘he who presides in love’.  It is clear that, in saying this, the Patriarch [the non-Catholic, schismatic Patriarch] did not abandon the claims of the Eastern Churches or acknowledge the primacy of the west.  Rather, he stated plainly what the East understood as the order, the rank and title, of the equal bishops in the Church – and it would be worth our while to consider whether this archaic confession, which has nothing to do with the ‘primacy of jurisdiction’ but confesses a primacy of ‘honor’ and agape, might not be recognized as a formula that adequately reflects the position that Rome occupies in the Church – ‘holy courage’ requires that prudence be combined with ‘audacity’: ‘The kingdom of God suffers violence.’”

 

Anyone who has any experience trying to convert Eastern Schismatics or knows anything about the theological issues involved with the Eastern “Orthodox” will immediately recognize that Benedict XVI just denied the dogma of the Papacy and the teaching of Vatican I.  He announces the position of the schismatic Patriarch, which acknowledges no primacy of supreme jurisdiction of the Pope, and he not only tells us that the position of the schismatic is acceptable (as we saw already), but that the schismatic position may in fact be the true position on the Bishop of Rome!  In other words, the Papacy (the supreme jurisdiction of the Popes over the universal Church) may not exist at all.  This is an astounding, incredible and huge heresy from an anathematized heretic!