Why would you say that “Fr.” Gruner is aschismatic?

By Bro. Peter Dimond, O.S.B.

Why would you say that Fr. Gruner is aschismatic? Just wondering. I think he is a good Priest.

-Sydney

Firstof all, it should be pointed out that “Fr.” Gruner was ordained in 1976, afterPaul VI’s dubious New Rite of Ordination was introduced.  Nicholas Gruner’s good friend, “Fr.” PaulLeonard Kramer, told me himself that he, Nicholas Gruner and “Fr.” Gregory Hessewere all ordained in the New Rite.  Thus,none of them can be considered valid priests.

Regardingwhy Nicholas Gruner is a schismatic, it’s very simple.  Nicholas Gruner is not only a schismatic, buta heretic and an apostate.  Gruner knows that Joseph Ratzinger,Antipope Benedict XVI, signed the book which states that the Jews wait not invain for the Messiah.  Yet, he holds acommunion of faith with Ratzinger and accepts him as pope. (Remember, theChurch is a communion of faith and government.) Therefore, Nicholas Gruner holds communion and shares faith with thosewho deny that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Nicholas Gruner is an apostate. His acceptance of the Vatican II apostates as Catholics proves thatNicholas Gruner has no faith whatsoever. The same is true of all who are aware of Ratzinger’s total apostasy andstill accept him as a Catholic.

Gruneralso accepted Antipope John Paul II as a Catholic after seeing loads of hisapostasy.  Gruner never once denouncedhim as a heretic, even though John Paul II promoted false religions, salvationoutside the Church, and total apostasy again and again.  Nicholas Gruner is a phony apostate.

JohnPaul II also taught that we shouldn’t convert schismatics.  Nevertheless, Gruner accepted him as hisfellow Catholic and leader.  This showsthat Gruner is also a schismatic for holding communion with John Paul, who wasa schismatic.  Gruner also had picturesof John Paul II in a positive way in his magazines for years and years, wellafter he was aware of John Paul II’s apostasy. Don’t be deceived by theostensible spirituality he claims to have or the spiritual truths he doesemphasize.  The Devil uses people likethis, who mix truth with error and give the appearance of ascetism, to lead peopleastray.  The heretic Arius – theoriginator of Arianism, which ravaged almost the entire Christian world – waseffective in deceiving multitudes by his appearance of ascetism.  Arius effectively deceived large numbers ofbrides of Christ (female religious) by his appearance of asceticism andspirituality, and they became one of his most effective means of spreading hisheresy. 

Whena person mixes truth with apostasy or corrupts the truths of Christ, you knowthat his devotion is phony and insincere. Nicholas Gruner is that kind of phony. The truth is that he doesn’t have true devotion to Our Lady; if he didhe would denounce apostates who deny that Jesus Christ is the Messiah and he wouldnot accept them as Catholics.  He oftencries in his talks.  Give me abreak.  He can cry all he wants if he’stelling people the truth, thus showing that he really cares; but when he spillsforth lies such as the following, he proves himself to be a big phony who isused by the Devil:

Nicholas Gruner, The Fatima Crusader, Summer 2000, “The Third Secret Release RaisesMore Questions”: “However, I want to make something perfectly clear here andnow. I absolutely do not suggestthat the Holy Father [John Paul II] would deliberately and knowingly suppresssome portion of the Third Secret of his own free will. There would have tobe some other explanation.”

Ifthere are two texts of the Third Secret of Fatima (we reject this idea, butthis is what Nicholas Gruner claims) and John Paul II read both texts, asGruner admits, then obviously John Paul II knew that the public wasdefrauded of the other text and John Paul II therefore lied to the public!  So what Gruner says here is simply wickeddishonesty. 

Here’sanother evil quote from Gruner’s publication. In the quote, it is denied that John Paul II is without Catholic faith;in other words, The Fatima Crusaderis asserting that he does have the Catholic faith.

“Fr.” Paul Kramer, in The Fatima Crusader, Winter 2004, p. 32:“The Secret of Fatima tells us, Our Lady tells us, the Mother of God revealsthat the great apostasy in the Church will begin from there, from theVatican.  We can therefore surmise, and it has been prophesied down through theages by the saints, that eventually Rome will be taken over by an Anti-pope,who will be entirely without Catholic faith, entirely heretical, unlike thepresent occupant of the See of Peter, who in his heart wishes topreserve and save the Church, but in his intellect, behaves as if he were theChurch’s worst enemy, by promoting the very things which will lead to thedestruction of the Church.”

“Rome will be taken over by an Anti-pope, whowill be entirely without Catholic faith, entirely heretical…”  Hmmm?  Who could that possibly be?  Could it be theman who removes the crucifixes from Catholic churches and allows Voodoohigh-priests to preach to the people?  Hmmm… could it be the man who declaresthat all men are saved and that the Holy Ghost is responsible for falsereligions of Satan?  Hmmm... the man who kisses the Koran and asks St. John the Baptistto protect Islam?  Could it be the manwho praises Martin Luther, the United Nations and the Social Justice ofCommunist China?  How about the man whoteaches that there are saints and martyrs in false religions, and that HolyCommunion should be given to heretics? How about the man who says that Masses are valid which have no words ofConsecration?  Hmmm… the man who declares that Christianity is the deep amazementat each man and that man is the Christ, the Son of the Living God?  Could it possibly be the man who overturnsthe Council of Trent, gives donations and relics to non-Catholic sects, andprays with the Jews for the coming of the Messiah?

Dothe people at The Fatima Crusaderthink that the Antipopes who will overtake Rome will carry signs saying: “I ama heretic!”  Do they think that they willannounce to the people, “We are the satanic antipopes who are to come!”  Any sincere person aware of the facts canimmediately recognize that Antipope John Paul II and Antipope Bendict XVI are“entirely without Catholic faith, entirely heretical…”  JohnPaul II denied the entire Catholic faith and approved of every false religion.  Ratzingerdenies that Christ is the Messiah!  Thestatement by Paul Kramer in The FatimaCrusader, approved by Gruner, that Antipope John Paul II is not theheretical Antipope who is entirely without Catholic faith is evil.

Nicholas Gruner, The Fatima Crusader, Summer 2000, “The Third Secret Release RaisesMore Questions”: “We are supposed to believe that if the Pope is told not to mention Russia in theConsecration, then the “Magisterium” has spoken, and no one may suggest thatthe advice given to the Pope is wrong.”

Grunerhere is implying that it’s not John Paul II who was primarily responsible forthe failure to Consecrate Russia, but rather it’s the people around him who areprimarily responsible.  In my view, heclearly made this statement because he didn’t want to offend the Novus Ordoheretics on his mailing list who wouldn’t like it if he placed the blamesquarely on Antipope John Paul II. 

Nicholas Gruner, The Fatima Crusader, Summer 2000, “The Third Secret VisionExplained”: [Regarding The DevilDraging Down the Clergy]:“Pope John Paul IIgoes further. He doesn’t suggest; he affirms it. So both Popes are pointing usto that chapter of the book of the Apocalypse of the Bible. Pope John Paul II goes further; it’s quiteextraordinary what he says in his homily… He gives us a pointer. He quotesChapter 12, verse 3 and 4, in which the verses he quotes is, “and the dragon,”meaning the devil, “drags down one third of the stars of Heaven.”

Nicholas Gruner, The Fatima Crusader, Summer 2000, “The Third Secret Raises MoreQuestions”: “The Vatican Secretary of State clearly did not want to riskembarrassing Mr. Gorbachev, promoter of abortion around the world. It wouldspoil the illusion that we have entered the post-Fatima era of peace andbrotherhood if some Catholic journalistwere to stand up and make note of the fact that Gorbachev personifies thevery culture of death the Pope has spent the past 20 years condemning.”

One“traditionalist” priest once correctly described The Fatima Crusader magazine as an evil mélange (mixture) of truthwith error.  Yes indeed, The Fatima Crusader is an evil mélangeof truth with error.  In one part of themagazine it correctly labels the apostasy at the Fatima Shrine as an“abomination,” while in the same issue it has two pictures of John Paul II, aquote from him on the Rosary, and tells us to “Follow his directive…” (p.23).  So, while they declare the event inFatima an “abomination,” and even “the abomination of desolation,” they promote in a positive light the manwho is ultimately responsible for this abomination and whose interreligiousactions of a similar nature at Assisi form the very basis and justificationfor the “abomination of desolation” in Fatima. Thus, The Fatima Crusader mixes Our Lady of Fatima with apostasy; itcondemns the abomination in Fatima while it promotes again and again the manultimately responsible for it (Antipope John Paul II).  It finally mentions John Paul II as teachinga “heresy” in Winter 2004, while in the same issue it declares that John PaulII is not the heretical antipope who is entirely without Catholicfaith.  It lures its readers in by somebeautiful truth on spiritual matters and Our Lady, while at the same time itleads them right back to the very sources of the apostasy.

NicholasGruner is not a Catholic.  He’s incommunion with the apostate Vatican II sect, which denies that Jesus Christ isthe Messiah.  He’s loyal to AntipopeBenedict XVI, who denies that Jesus Christ is the Messiah.  Gruner is an apostate; one really doesn’tneed to say more.  Of course, no Catholiccould donate a penny to him or his heretical magazine, The Fatima Crusader.

Inaddition to his deadly mixture of truth with error, one of the ways by which“Fr.” Gruner’s apostolate has become so influential is by propaganda.  Here are some of the things that you can findon the website of his apostolate: His website (Fatima.org) calls his magazine“Our Lady’s magazine.”  It states: “Clickhere to read more about Our Lady’smagazine…”!  Boy, who would want todisagree with or not support “Our Lady’s magazine” – the magazine of Our Ladyherself!

Hecalls his Book Service “Our Lady’s Book Service”!  Wow, we wish we could have the privilege ofbeing “Our Lady’s Book Service.”  Hecalls his radio program “Our Lady’sRadio Program”!  And – yes, you guessedit – he calls his Apostolate, not just a Fatima Apostolate, but “Our Lady’sApostolate”!  His website states:“Shortly following the formation of OurLady's Apostolate, Father Gruner began publishing the Fatima Crusadermagazine. In 1980, Pope John Paul II directly encouraged Father Gruner in hisFatima work and the periodical has grown…” 

Wow,he must be some “priest” to run “Our Lady’s Apostolate” – the Apostolate of OurLady herself! – as well as her RadioProgram, her magazine and her Book Service.  Does anyone fail to see how presumptuous –and arguably blasphemous – this is?  Oh,never mind… it’s okay… I almost forgot… Gruner is, according to his Apostolate(i.e. “Our Lady’s” Apostolate), “the Fatima Priest”!

Intruth, this is simply propaganda from a false prophet, and that is why“Fr.” Gruner has had such an influence on what people think about Fatima andthe present situation.  Propaganda isdefined as “…organized scheme, for propagation of a doctrine or practice.”  To dub almost every aspect of his apostolate“Our Lady’s” is an organized scheme on the part of his apostolate to builditself up as the voice of Our Lady herself.

Besidesbeing wickedly presumptuous, this propaganda brainwashes people just like thepropaganda from the mainstream media. When they hear this stuff over and over – this is “Our Lady’sapostolate” and “Our Lady’s magazine” and “Our Lady’s Book Service” – they areoften brainwashed to follow everything he says on Fatima, support himvigorously (for who wouldn’t want to support Our Lady?) or consider Gruner tobe Our Lady’s personal representative. Since people are so gullible, it has been a major factor in how big hisapostolate has become.  That is why hisapostolate continues to use this type of propaganda so often.  It’s why so many have been brainwashed not toconsider anything on this issue that doesn’t conform to “Fr.” Gruner’s views.

Bythe way, Gruner stated in one of his letters that he wants to send the book“Fatima Priest” (which is the story of his life) to every “bishop” in theworld!  What a complete waste.  The book FatimaPriest, which is replete with pictures of Gruner from throughout his lifeincluding as a baby, which is basically all about him and what a hero hesupposedly is, has been translated into various languages to spread the “GoodNews” of Nicholas Gruner around the world.

Allof this explains why Gruner consistently promoted pictures of Antipope JohnPaul II in his magazine for years (in a positive light) after he was aware ofJohn Paul II’s apostasy.  For Gruner, itwasn’t about telling people the truth; it was about keeping himself popular andseen as a hero with a somewhat mainstream “Catholic” audience – by promotingJohn Paul II and Fatima at the same time. Only a very wicked man would not have denounced John Paul II oncehe became aware of his apostasy, and that’s exactly what Nicholas Gruneris. 

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