Why would you say that “Fr.” Gruner
is a schismatic?
By Bro. Peter Dimond,
O.S.B.
Why would you say that Fr. Gruner
is a schismatic? Just wondering. I think he is a good
Priest.
-Sydney
First
of all, it should be pointed out that “Fr.” Gruner
was ordained in 1976, after Paul VI’s
dubious New Rite of Ordination was introduced.
Nicholas Gruner’s good friend, “Fr.” Paul
Leonard Kramer, told me himself that he, Nicholas Gruner
and “Fr.” Gregory Hesse were all ordained in the New
Rite. Thus, none of them can be
considered valid priests.
Regarding
why Nicholas Gruner is a schismatic, it is very
simple. Nicholas Gruner
is not only a schismatic, but a heretic and an apostate. Gruner knows that
Joseph Ratzinger, Antipope Benedict XVI, signed the
book which states that the Jews wait not in vain for the Messiah. Yet, he holds a communion of Faith with Ratzinger and accepts him as Pope. (Remember, the Church is
a communion of Faith and government.)
Therefore, Nicholas Gruner holds communion and
shares Faith with those who deny that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Nicholas Gruner is
an apostate. His acceptance of the
Vatican II apostates as Catholics proves that Nicholas Gruner
has no Faith whatsoever. The same is
true of all who are aware of Ratzinger’s total
apostasy and still accept him as a Catholic.
Gruner also accepted Antipope John Paul II as a Catholic after seeing
loads of his apostasy. Gruner never once denounced him as a heretic, even though
John Paul II promoted false religions, promoted salvation outside the Church,
promoted total apostasy again and again.
Nicholas Gruner is a phony apostate.
John
Paul II also taught that we shouldn’t convert schismatics,
and yet Gruner accepted him as his fellow Catholic
and leader. This shows that Gruner is also a schismatic for holding communion with John
Paul, a schismatic. Gruner
also had pictures of John Paul II in a positive way in his magazines for years
and years, after he was aware of his apostasy.
Don’t be deceived by the
ostensible spirituality he claims to have or the spiritual truths he does
emphasize. The devil uses people like
this, who mix truth with error and give the appearance of ascetism,
to lead people astray. The heretic Arius
– the originator of Arianism, which ravaged almost
the entire Christian world – was effective in deceiving multitudes by his
appearance of ascetism. Arius effectively deceived large numbers of
brides of Christ (female religious) by his appearance of asceticism and
spirituality, and they became one of his most effective means of spreading his
heresy.
But
when a person mixes truth with apostasy or corrupts the truths of Christ you
know that his devotion is phony and insincere.
Nicholas Gruner is that kind of phony. The truth is that he doesn’t have true devotion
to Our Lady; if he did he would denounce apostates who deny that Jesus Christ
is the Messiah and not accept them as Catholics. He often cries in his talks. Give me a break. He can cry all he wants if he is telling
people the truth, thus showing that he really cares; but when he spills forth
lies such as the following he proves himself to be a big phony who is used by the devil:
Nicholas Gruner, The Fatima Crusader, Summer
2000, “The Third Secret Release Raises More Questions”: “However, I want to make
something perfectly clear here and now.
I absolutely do not suggest that the Holy Father [John Paul II] would
deliberately and knowingly suppress some portion of the Third Secret of his own
free will. There would have to be some other explanation.”
If there
are two texts of the Third Secret of Fatima (we reject this idea, but this is
what Nicholas Gruner claims) and John Paul II read
both texts, as Gruner admits, then obviously John
Paul II knew that the public was defrauded of the other text and John Paul II
therefore lied to the public! So what Gruner says here is simply wicked dishonesty.
Here
is another evil quote from Gruner’s publication which
denied that John Paul II is without Catholic Faith; in other words, The Fatima Crusader is asserting that he
does have the Catholic Faith.
“Fr.” Paul Kramer, in The Fatima Crusader, Winter 2004, p. 32:
“The Secret of Fatima tells us, Our Lady tells us, the Mother of God reveals
that the great apostasy in the Church will begin from there, from the
Vatican. We can therefore surmise, and it has been prophesied down through the
ages by the saints, that eventually Rome will be taken over by an Anti-pope,
who will be entirely without Catholic faith, entirely heretical, unlike the
present occupant of the See of Peter, who in his heart wishes to
preserve and save the Church, but in his intellect, behaves as if he were the
Church’s worst enemy, by promoting the very things which will lead to the
destruction of the Church.”
“Rome will be taken over by an Anti-pope, who
will be entirely without Catholic faith, entirely heretical…” Hmmm? Who could that possibly be? Could it be the
man who removes the crucifixes from Catholic churches and allows voodoo highpriests to preach to the people? Hmmm…
could it be the man who declares that all men are saved and that the Holy Ghost
is responsible for false religions of Satan?
Hmmm...
the man who kisses the Koran and asks St. John the
Baptist to protect Islam? Could it be
the man who praises Martin Luther, the United Nations and the Social Justice of
Communist China? How about the man who
teaches that there are saints and martyrs in false religions, and that Holy
Communion should be given to heretics?
How about the man who says that Masses are valid which have no words of
Consecration? Hmmm… the man who declares that Christianity is the deep amazement
at each man and that man is the Christ, the Son of the Living God? Could it possibly be the man who overturns
the Council of Trent, gives donations and relics to non-Catholic sects, and
prays with the Jews for the coming of the Messiah?
Do
the people at The Fatima Crusader
think that the Antipopes who will overtake Rome will carry signs saying: “I am
a heretic!” Do
they think that they will announce to the people, “We are the Satanic Antipopes
who are to come!”
Any sincere person aware of the facts can immediately recognize that
Antipope John Paul II and Antipope Bendict XVI are
“entirely without Catholic faith, entirely heretical…” John
Paul II denied the entire Catholic Faith and approved of every false religion. Ratzinger denies that
Christ is the Messiah! The statement
by Paul Kramer in The Fatima Crusader, approved
by Gruner, that Antipope John Paul II is not the
heretical Antipope who is entirely without Catholic Faith is evil.
Nicholas Gruner, The Fatima Crusader, Summer
2000, “The Third Secret Release Raises More Questions”: “We are supposed to
believe that if the Pope is told not
to mention Russia in the Consecration, then the “Magisterium”
has spoken, and no one may suggest that the advice given to the Pope is wrong.”
Gruner here is implying that it’s not John Paul II who was primarily
responsible for failure to Consecrate Russia, but rather it is the people
around him who are primarily responsible.
In my view, he clearly made this statement because he didn’t want to
offend the Novus Ordo heretics on his mailing list
who wouldn’t like it if he placed the blame squarely on Antipope John Paul
II.
Nicholas Gruner, The Fatima Crusader, Summer
2000, “The Third Secret Vision Explained”: [Regarding The Devil Draging Down the Clergy]:
“Pope
John Paul II goes further. He doesn’t suggest; he affirms it. So both Popes are
pointing us to that chapter of the book of the Apocalypse of the Bible. Pope John Paul II goes further; it’s quite
extraordinary what he says in his homily… He gives us a pointer. He quotes
Chapter 12, verse 3 and 4, in which the verses he
quotes is, “and the dragon,” meaning the devil, “drags down one third of the
stars of Heaven.”
Nicholas Gruner, The Fatima Crusader, Summer
2000, “The Third Secret Raises More Questions”: “The Vatican Secretary of State
clearly did not want to risk embarrassing Mr. Gorbachev, promoter of abortion
around the world. It would spoil the illusion that we have entered the
post-Fatima era of peace and brotherhood if
some Catholic journalist were to stand up and make note of the fact that
Gorbachev personifies the very culture of death the Pope has spent the past
20 years condemning.”
One
“traditionalist” priest once correctly described The Fatima Crusader magazine as an evil mélange (mixture) of truth
with error. Yes indeed, The Fatima Crusader is an evil mélange
of truth with error. In one part of the
magazine it correctly labels the apostasy at the Fatima Shrine as an
“abomination,” while in the same issue it has two pictures of John Paul II, a
quote from him on the Rosary, and tells us to “Follow his directive…” (p.
23). So, while they declare the event in
Fatima an “abomination,” and even “the abomination of desolation,” they promote in a positive light the man
who is ultimately responsible for this abomination and whose interreligious actions of a similar nature at Assisi form
the very basis and justification for the “abomination of desolation” in
Fatima. Thus, The Fatima Crusader
mixes Our Lady of Fatima with apostasy; it condemns the abomination in
Fatima while it promotes again and again the man ultimately responsible for it
(Antipope John Paul II). It finally
mentions John Paul II as teaching a “heresy” in Winter
2004 while in the same issue it declares that John Paul II is not the
heretical Antipope who is entirely without Catholic Faith. It lures its readers in by some beautiful
truth on spiritual matters and Our Lady, while at the same time it leads them
right back to the very sources of the apostasy.
Nicholas
Gruner is not a Catholic. He is in communion with the apostate Vatican
II sect, which denies that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. He is loyal to Antipope Benedict XVI, who
denies that Jesus Christ is the Messiah.
Gruner is an apostate; one really doesn’t need
to say more. No one, of course, can
donate a penny to him or his heretical magazine, The Fatima Crusader.
In addition to his deadly mixture of truth with
error, one of the ways by which “Fr.” Gruner’s
apostolate has become so influential is by propaganda. Here are some of the things that you can find
on the website of his apostolate: His website (Fatima.org) calls his magazine
“Our Lady’s magazine.” It states: “Click
here to read more about Our Lady’s
magazine…”! Boy, who would want to
disagree with or not support “Our Lady’s magazine” – the magazine of Our Lady
herself!
He calls his Book Service “Our Lady’s Book
Service”! Wow, we wish we could have the
privilege of being “Our Lady’s Book Service.”
He calls his radio program “Our
Lady’s Radio Program”! And – yes,
you guessed it – he calls his Apostolate, not just a Fatima Apostolate, but
“Our Lady’s Apostolate”! His website
states: “Shortly following the formation of Our Lady's Apostolate, Father Gruner
began publishing the Fatima Crusader magazine. In 1980, Pope John Paul II
directly encouraged Father Gruner in his Fatima work
and the periodical has grown…”
Wow, he must be some “priest” to run “Our Lady’s
Apostolate” – the Apostolate of Our Lady herself! – as
well as her Radio Program, her magazine and her Book Service. Does anyone
fail to see how presumptuous – and arguably blasphemous – this is? Oh, never mind… it’s okay… I almost forgot… Gruner is, according to his Apostolate (i.e. “Our Lady’s”
Apostolate), “the Fatima Priest”!
In truth, this is simply propaganda from a false
prophet, and that is why “Fr.” Gruner has had
such an influence on what people think about Fatima and the present
situation. Propaganda is defined as
“…organized scheme, for propagation of a doctrine or practice.” To dub almost every aspect of his apostolate
“Our Lady’s” is an organized scheme on the part of his apostolate to build
itself up as the voice of Our Lady herself.
Besides being wickedly presumptuous, this
propaganda brainwashes people just like the propaganda from the mainstream
media. When they hear this stuff over
and over – this is “Our Lady’s apostolate” and “Our Lady’s magazine” and “Our
Lady’s Book Service” – they are often brainwashed to follow everything he says
on Fatima, support him vigorously (for who wouldn’t want to support Our Lady?)
or consider Gruner to be Our Lady’s personal
representative. Since people are so
gullible, it has been a major factor in how big his apostolate has become. That is why his apostolate continues to
use this type of propaganda so often.
It is why so many have been brainwashed not to consider anything on this
issue that doesn’t conform to “Fr.” Gruner’s views.
By the way, Gruner stated
in one of his letters that he wants to send the book “Fatima Priest” (which is
the story of his life) to every “Bishop” in the world! What a complete waste. The book Fatima
Priest, which is replete with pictures of Gruner
from throughout his life including as a baby, which is basically all about him
and what a hero he supposedly is, has been translated into various languages to
spread the “Good News” of Nicholas Gruner around the
world.
All of this explains why Gruner
consistently promoted pictures of Antipope John Paul II in his magazine for
years (in a positive light) after he was aware of John Paul II’s
apostasy. For Gruner,
it wasn’t about telling people the truth; it was about keeping himself popular
and seen as a hero with a somewhat mainstream “Catholic” audience – by
promoting John Paul II and Fatima at the same time. Only a very wicked man would not have
denounced John Paul II once he became aware of his apostasy, and that’s exactly
what Nicholas Gruner is.