Heresies
of the Week of John Paul II’s Hierarchy and Members
By Bro. Michael Dimond, O.S.B.
and Bro. Peter Dimond, O.S.B.
Week of
7/7/06
Vatican Prefect of the Congregation for Evangelization and Novus Ordo Bishops of India say Church has no “no
ulterior motives of conversions.” Link to article
“Cardinal Ivan Dias, archbishop of
Mumbai, who takes on a coveted office in the Vatican on Tuesday, stressed that all the health, educational
and social projects of the Catholic Church in India had 'no ulterior motives of
conversions'.
Mumbai, June 26 (Indo-Asian News Service) Addressing a huge gathering at a
grand farewell ceremony in Mumbai Sunday night, the prelate said there was need
of more thrust on inter-religious dialogue among people of diverse religious
traditions to share ideas, experiences and to undertake common action for
communal amity. Cardinal Dias has been
appointed the 37th Prefect of the Congregation for the Evangelization of
Peoples, a crucial Vatican department, in the first such appointment of an
Indian cardinal. The authority of the
Vatican department to be headed by Cardinal Dias extends to over five
continents, with over 2,400 archbishops and bishops under his charge for
various works of the church.”
What we have here is a Novus Ordo “cardinal,” the very head of the Vatican Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples (!) with over 2,400 bishops under him, declaring that the educational and social projects run by the Vatican II Church in India don’t even have conversions as an “ulterior” motive for these projects. The word ulterior means “situated beyond… in the background.” In other words, his “Church” has no motive whatsoever to convert the non-Catholics in India. This, I remind you, is coming from the very head of the Vatican Congregation on Evangelization.
Here is a photo from The Indian Express in which the
aforementioned "Cardinal" Dias is burning incense to the Hindu deity Ganesha (right)
What
more proof does one need to see that the Vatican II sect is the
Counter-Church? Well, there is
more. Here are a few quotes from the
Novus Ordo “Catholic”
Bishops’ Conference of India:
“The message of Jesus, divine Guru,
helps us to see the deeper implications of the ideals of justice, liberty,
equality and fraternity enshrined in our Constitution. The great teachings of the religions of India too find a
resonance in his teachings: the radical demands of the ethical order, the
detachment and asceticism it requires, the transcendence and intimacy of the
Absolute Mystery, the obedience due to the Divine Will, the law of ahimsa, the
sacredness of the physical universe, even the playfulness of God….
“We do not offer services with the ulterior motive of
converting others to our religion. It is our firm conviction that only God can
convert any person: conversion is a matter of the heart
and only God can touch the human heart…”
[Link
to Message]
Notice
that “the bishops” say that “only God can convert” with the clear meaning that
they repudiate attempts by a person to preach conversion to others. This is truly a new gospel.
Iraqi Vatican II “Catholics” donate money to Rebuild
Mosque! [link]
This really epitomizes
the bad fruits of the Vatican II religion.
With the encouragement of their “Archbishop,” these people are helping reconstruct
a Mosque, and thus assisting in apostasy and committing a grave and disgusting
offense against God, while thinking that they are performing an act of
“Christian charity.” This shows us again
how completely apostate the Vatican II hierarchy is, and how people are led to their destruction when they have a version of
“charity” that is devoid of the uncompromising Catholic Faith. Charity cannot exist in something that is
not consistent with the true Faith.
Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos (#
11), Jan. 6, 1928:
“For which reason,
since charity is based on a complete
and sincere faith, the disciples of Christ must be united principally
by the bond of one faith. Who then can
conceive a Christian Federation…”
Pope Pius IX, Vatican I, Sess. 3, Chap. 3, 1870, on Faith: “But, since ‘without faith it is impossible to please God’ [Heb. 11:6] and to
attain to the fellowship of His sons, hence, no one is justified without it…” (Denz.
1793)
Pope Paul III, Council of Trent,
Sess. V, 1546: “…our Catholic faith, without which it is
impossible to please God [Heb. 11:6]…” (Denz.
787)
Here is a reminder of
what the Popes, Councils and Saints thought of Mosques, Islam and its false
prophet, Mahomet (or Mohammed).
Pope Clement V, Council of Vienne, 1311-1312:
“It is an insult to the holy name and a
disgrace to the Christian faith that in certain parts of the world subject
to Christian princes where Saracens [i.e., the followers of Islam, also called
Muslims] live, sometimes apart, sometimes intermingled with Christians, the
Saracen priests, commonly called Zabazala, in their temples or mosques, in
which the Saracens meet to adore the
infidel Mahomet, loudly invoke and extol his name each day at certain hours
from a high place… This brings disrepute
on our faith and gives great scandal to the faithful. These
practices cannot be tolerated without displeasing the divine majesty. We therefore, with the sacred council’s
approval, strictly forbid such practices henceforth in Christian lands. We enjoin on Catholic princes, one and all.. They are to forbid
expressly the public invocation of the sacrilegious name of Mahomet… Those
who presume to act otherwise are to be so chastised by the princes for their
irreverence, that others may be deterred from such boldness.” (Decrees of the Ecumenical Councils, Vol. 1, p. 479.)
So, the Iraqi “Catholics” are helping reconstruct a
Mosque so that Muslims can resume that which the Council of Vienne condemned
and forbade as “an insult to the holy name and a disgrace to the Christian
faith.”
Pope Eugene IV, Council of Basel, Session 19, Sept. 7,
1434:
“Moreover, we trust
that with God’s help another benefit will accrue to the Christian commonwealth;
because from this union, once it is established, there is hope that very many
from the abominable sect of Mahomet
will be converted to the Catholic faith.” (Decrees of the Ecumenical Councils,
Vol. 1, p. 380.)
St. Francis Xavier,
Letter, May, 1546: “The evil was introduced by some Mahometan cacizes (ministers of religion), who came from Mecca in
Arabia, where the accursed body of
Mahomet is honored with great superstition, and drew a large multitude
of people to their own sect.” (The Life and Letters of St. Francis Xavier by Henry James
Coleridge, S.J. Second
Reprint, New Delhi: Asian Educational Services, 2004, Vol. 1, p. 380.]
I can just imagine
what St. Francis Xavier would have said about helping reconstruct a
Mosque. By the way, knowing what the
Catholic Church teaches about Islam, and comparing it to what the Vatican II
sect teaches about it, is enough by itself to prove the sedevacantist
position.
APPENDIX –
THE VATICAN II SECT ON ISLAM
Benedict XVI, Salt of the Earth, 1996, p. 244: “There is a noble Islam, embodied, for example, by the King
of Morocco...”
John Paul II, March 21, 2000: “May
Saint John the Baptist protect Islam and all the people of Jordan...” (L’ Osservatore
Romano, March 29, 2000, p. 2.)
John Paul II, Message to "Grand Sheikh
Mohammed," Feb. 24, 2000: "Islam is a religion. Christianity is a
religion. Islam has become a culture. Christianity has become also a culture...
I thank your university, the biggest center of Islamic culture. I thank those who are developing Islamic
culture..." (L’Osservatore Romano,
March 1, 2000, p. 5.)
Paul VI, Speech, Sept. 9, 1972: “We would also like you to know that the
Church recognizes the riches of the
Islamic faith – a faith that binds us to the one God.” (L’Osservatore Romano, Sept. 21, 1972, p. 2.)
Vatican II, Nostra aetate
# 3:
“The Church also
looks upon Muslims with respect.
They worship the one God living and subsistent, merciful and mighty,
creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to humanity and to whose decrees,
even the hidden ones, they seek to submit themselves whole-heartedly,
just as Abraham, to whom the Islamic faith readily relates itself, submitted to
God… Hence they have regard for the moral life and worship God in
prayer, almsgiving and fasting.”
Vatican II, Lumen Gentium # 16:
“But the plan of salvation also
embraces those who acknowledge the Creator, and among these the MUSLIMS
are first; they profess to hold the faith of Abraham AND ALONG WITH US THEY WORSHIP THE ONE MERCIFUL GOD WHO WILL JUDGE
MANKIND ON THE LAST DAY.”
Week of 2/25/05:
Ratzinger’s possible
successor (as head of Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) denies the
Resurrection
Chris Ferrara, The Remnant,
Feb. 15, 2005, p. 6: “Another example of this alarming situation… is the
little-noticed story of how Bruno Forte, a priest of the Archdiocese of Naples,
was suddenly made a bishop five months ago.
Forte… is rumored to be Cardinal Ratzinger’s replacement as head of the Congregation for the
Doctrine of the Faith. How this
happened is anybody’s guess. The rumor has caused a great deal of
consternation for one simple reason: Forte is a flaming neo-modernist.
“…[Alessandro]
Zangrando, a respected journalist… reveals Forte as
nothing less than ‘the standard-bearer of theories so radical as to the point
of putting in doubt even the historicity of the resurrection of Christ. The
empty tomb, he [Forte] argues, is a legend tied into the Jewish-Christian
ritual performed at the place of Jesus’ burial.
It is a myth inherited by the Christians from Jesus’ early
disciples. Therefore, the empty tomb,
along with the other details surrounding the resurrection, is nothing but a
‘proof’ made up by the community.” (Bolding
and underlining are my own)
Comment: So the possible replacement of “Cardinal” Ratzinger denies the Resurrection. I would say that is heresy, wouldn’t
you? But notice what the heretic Chris
Ferrara says and – more importantly in this case – what he doesn’t say about Forte!
Ferrara calls Forte a “flaming neo-modernist”; but not once does he say
that this apostate is even a heretic, even though Forte denies the Resurrection
of Jesus Christ! This could be the
outrage of the week, in addition to the Heresy of the Week.
Week of 12/31/04
Mother Teresa’s 1989 Time Magazine
Interview – She loves all religions!
Time: What do you think of Hinduism?
Mother Teresa: I love all religions,
but I am in love with my own. No discussion. That's what we have to prove to
them. Seeing what I do, they realize that I am in love with Jesus.
Time: And they should love Jesus too?
Mother Teresa: Naturally, if they want peace, if they want joy, let them find
Jesus. If people become better Hindus,
better Moslems, better Buddhists by our acts of love,
then there is something else growing there. They come closer and closer to God.
When they come closer, they have to choose.
Click
here for more of the Interview
Comment: This is complete and utter apostasy. Mother Teresa was not even remotely
Catholic. She loved religions of
Satan. And she will soon be a “Saint” in
Antipope John Paul II’s false “Church,” thus proving
again that he is not the Pope.
1 Corinthians 13:3-
“And if I should distribute all my goods to feed the poor, and if I
should deliver my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.”
Mother Teresa’s charity was false, because it was
not founded on the true Faith. It
profited her nothing.
Pope Pius XI, Mortalium
Animos (# 11), Jan. 6, 1928:
"… the foundation of charity is
faith pure and inviolate…."
Hebrews 11:6: “But
without faith it is impossible to please God…”
Also make sure to look at our new “Post-Vatican II
Church Miscellaneous Photo Gallery” to see the picture of Mother Teresa
worshipping Buddha in 1975.
Week of 11/26/04 – Major Heresy and Declaration
of Protestantism
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The nation's Roman
Catholic bishops voted Wednesday to join a new alliance that would be the
broadest Christian group ever formed in the United States, linking American
evangelicals and Catholics in an ecumenical organization for the first time. The alliance, called Christian Churches Together in the
Comment: All over the internet you can find articles about
this amazing act of heresy by the
With
this agreement, the
Thus, those who are aware of this act and continue
to regard the Novus Ordo Bishops in communion with John Paul II as the true hierarchy
are formal heretics; they are nothing more than Protestants. Also, those who, after knowing this
information, support a priest which recognizes these Bishops as the hierarchy
or John Paul II as the Pope (such as the Fraternity of St. Peter, the Society
of St. Pius X, all indult and non-sedevacantist priests) sin mortally and
support Protestantism. Those who are
aware of this declaration and deny that the sect of John Paul II is formally
heretical are liars in the service of the devil. Wake up and take a stand – this is out of
control. To name just a few, we denounce
the apostates at Catholic Family News,
The Remnant, the Society of St. Pius
X, Bob Sungenis, John Vennari,
Michael Matt, Chris Ferrara, Thomas Woods, Atila Guimaraes, Marian Horvat, Michael
Cain, Jacob Michael, “Fr.” Nicholas Gruner, “Fr.” Paul Leonard Kramer, “Fr.”
Patrick Perez, Fr. Paul Trinchard, Fr. James Wathen, Fr. Moderator, St.
Benedict Center, Catholic Answers, EWTN, etc., etc., etc., all of whom
obstinately recognize the Novus Ordo Protestant Bishops as their hierarchy and
are therefore heretics no different from Protestants. They are in communion with a heretical
denomination. Anyone who knows or has
contact with these heretics should denounce them as well.
The heretical communion which the
Statement of Faith: "The
National Council of Churches is a community of Christian communions,
which, in response to the gospel as revealed in the Scriptures, confess Jesus
Christ, the incarnate Word of God, as Savior and Lord. These communions
covenant with one another to manifest ever more fully the unity of the Church.
Relying upon the transforming power of the Holy Spirit, the communions come
together as the Council in common mission, serving in all creation to the glory
of God." --from the Preamble to the NCC
Constitution.
This means that the members of the National Council of Churches share a
communion covenant with all of the other denominations and recognize all the
other denominations as manifesting the unity of the Church. Nothing could be more heretical.
Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (#
9), June 29, 1896:
“The practice of the Church has always been the same, as is shown by the
unanimous teaching of the Fathers, who
were wont to hold as outside Catholic
communion, and alien to the
Church, whoever would recede in the least degree from any point of doctrine
proposed by her authoritative Magisterium.”
Pope St. Leo the
Great, Sermon 129:
“Wherefore, since outside the Catholic Church there is nothing perfect,
nothing undefiled… we are in no way
likened with those who are divided from the unity of the Body of Christ; we are joined in no communion.”
One final note: the AP report for this act notes:
“With about
67 million U.S. members, the Catholic Church would be the largest
denomination.”
This reminds us of the important point that the Novus Ordo
Bishops have entered all the members of their churches, not just
themselves, into this Protestant Communion.
This means that if you recognize John Paul II as the Pope – and
therefore his Bishops as the hierarchy – YOU have been entered into
the Protestant “Christian Churches Together in the
Week of 9/24/04
John Paul II’s
“Cardinal Archbishop” of
“Cardinal”
Archbishop Theodore McCarrick, Interview with National Catholic Register about his
trip to
Q.
What did you observe about the relations between Orthodox and Roman
Catholics. A. Cardinal McCarrick: “I think our Orthodox brothers and sisters still
may feel threatened by the Roman Catholic Church... There are always going to
be some people in communities who feel troubled by other religious communities,
possibly fearing that they’re going
to proselytize [try to convert them]. I
THINK THE HOLY FATHER HAS REALLY BEEN SO CLEAR THAT HIS ROLE IS NEVER TO
PROSELYTIZE; his role is to find the key to unity.” (National Catholic Register, Sept. 19-25,
2004, p. 10.)
Comment: Ladies and Gentlemen, this is why there
can never be a heretic “Pope,” because the Bishops in the Church undoubtedly
follow the lead of the Pope. If John
Paul II teaches that the Eastern Schismatics should
not be converted, the Novus Ordo “Bishops” are going to teach the same
thing. Here we see the “head” of the
Novus Ordo sect in
What more do these apostates need to say to prove
that they are not Catholic? If you live
in
Week of 7/23/04
Novus Ordo “Benedictines” and
“Jesuits” are officially installed in Novus Ordo Monasteries as teachers of Zen
Buddhism!
Monastic Interreligious
Dialogue (Newsletter)- Sponsored by North American Benedictine and Cistercian monasteries of
men and women
“Fr.
Kevin Hunt Installed as Zen Teacher- On
April 17, 2004, Fr. Kevin Hunt, OCSO, a Trappist monk of St. Joseph’s Abbey in Spencer, Massachusetts, and a former
member of the MID board, was installed as a Zen teacher (Sensei) in a ceremony
held at the abbey. The installation was led by Fr. Robert Kennedy,
S.J., who is the only North American Jesuit who is also a Zen Master (Roshi) and who served as Fr. Kevin’s teacher. The installation was witnessed by the
abbot of St. Joseph’s and the rest of the monastic community as well as by over
seventy guests, including Zen
teachers and members of Catholic religious orders from around the country.
“Fr. Kevin thereby became the first Trappist monk who is also a Zen teacher. In recognition of this unique event,
letters of commendation were written by His Holiness the Dalai Lama and by Fr. Peter-Hans Kolvenbach,
the superior general of the Society of Jesus. Fr. Kolvenbach
wrote, ‘Many Christian have found Zen to be a valuable instrument for progressing
in the spiritual life. By coming to focus on the present moment through the
practice of the techniques of Zen meditation, the Christian can become aware of
God’s immediate loving presence.
“Fr. Kolvenbach’s remarks reflect the commitment made by the
Jesuits at their 34th General Congregation to foster dialogue with other
religions, an activity that they called ‘a shared commitment to a
transformation of the cultural and social life within which people live.’ Noting that Pope John Paul II has wished to
make interreligious dialogue an apostolic priority
for the third millennium, Fr.
Kennedy said that his work with Fr. Kevin was one way in which this priority
could be carried out…”
Seventh Annual Vaishnava-Christian
Dialogue
“On April 16-17, 2004, three persons
directly connected with the North American MID were among the sixteen who
participated in the seventh annual Vaishnava-Christian Dialogue, held at Rockwood Manor
Park in Potomac, Maryland, under the
co-sponsorship of the Office of Ecumenical and Interreligious
Affairs of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and the
International Society of Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON)…
“As in most past years, the first day of
the program included addresses by a Christian and a Vaishnava
participant, each commenting on texts from the two traditions… [The] opening
talks elicited lively dialogue among the other participants for the rest of the
day and on into the next day, which
began with the singing of hymns and chanting of prayers from the two traditions.”
Comment: So now we have ceremonies going on in the
Novus Ordo Monasteries to induct men as teachers of the Satanic practice of Zen
Buddhism. What a sick joke! And to think how many times we have heard
from people that we are not true Benedictines because we are not in communion
with the Novus Ordo “Benedictines” of Antipope John Paul II. One would have to be in communion with Satan
to be in communion with these apostates.
But all of this happens because they are just following Antipope John
Paul II and the lead of
Please note a few other things about this amazing
act of apostasy by the Novus Ordo sect.
Note that “Fr.” Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, the alleged Superior General of the Society
of Jesus, wrote a letter of commendation for this event! This is the leader of the entire “Jesuit”
Order under John Paul II.
Note that the Newsletter (quoted above), which is
sponsored by “North American Benedictine and Cistercian” monasteries, referred
to the Satanic Dalai Lama as “His Holiness.”
Note that John Paul II’s program of interreligious
dialogue is used as the Justification for this event.
And finally, note that the
St. Francis Xavier,
Sept. 18, +1542: “I told him that God,
most Faithful and True, held the misbelievers and their prayers in abomination,
and so willed that their worship, which He rejected altogether, should come to
naught.” (Life and Letters, Vol.
1, p. 116)
St. Francis Xavier,
Spring +1543: “One day I turned out of my road into a village of heathens…
There was a woman with child, who had been three days in labor with so much
difficulty, that many despaired of her life.
Their prayers for her were not
heard, for the prayer of the wicked is an abomination in the eyes of God, because
the gods of the heathens are all devils [Psalm 95:5; 1 Cor. 10:20].” (Life
and Letters, Vol. 1, p. 147)
What would St. Francis Xavier say about the sect of
Antipope John Paul II? Would he call it a sect of the Antichrist? Of course he would.
Click here for the link to the article
Week of 5/14/04
Head of Russian Bishops tells us that
the Vatican II sect has no intention of converting Russian “Orthodox” Schismatics
“There
is no proselytism as a directive on the part of the Holy See, nor is there any
intention to convert
Comment: This is easily one of the worst heresies of John Paul II’s sect, and quite devastating to its claim to be the
Catholic Church.
Week of 4/2/04 – Major Heresy
The “Archbishop” of
Archbishop Joseph
Dore of Strasbourg, France, Speech to B’nai B’rith (Jewish Freemasons), August,
2003: “Whatever the depiction [of the Jews in traditional Catholic art]… the theological message is the same – God’s
election has now passed to the Christian people; and the Church, the true
Israel, may triumph, She who confesses the saving truth brought by Christ.
“At
“Today the Church calls Christians to
take the first steps on the path to conversion, inviting them to construct
a future with their Jewish brothers in which, together, they might be a
‘blessing for one another’ [John Paul II, 1983].” (Bulletin du prieure Marie-Reine [195 rue de Bale, 68100 Mulhouse]; also The Angelus, Feb-March 2004, p. 70)
Comment: This is total apostasy. It is complete and utter contempt for – and
rejection of – the following dogma, which declares that the Old Covenant ceased
with the coming of Christ and was replaced with the New and Eternal Covenant of
Jesus Christ.
Pope Eugene IV,
Council of Florence, Cantate Domino, Feb. 4, 1441, ex cathedra:
“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes
and teaches that the matter pertaining to the law of the Old Testament, of the
Mosaic Law, which are divided into ceremonies, sacred rites,
sacrifices, and sacraments, because they were established to signify something
in the future, although they were suited to divine worship at that time, after our
Lord’s coming had been signified by them, ceased,
and the sacraments of the New Testament began; and that whoever, even after the passion, placed hope in these matters
of the law and submitted himself to them as necessary for salvation, as if
faith in Christ could not save without them, sinned mortally. Yet it does
not deny that after the passion of Christ up to the promulgation of the Gospel
they could have been observed until they were believed to be in no way
necessary for salvation; but after the promulgation
of the Gospel it asserts that they cannot be observed without the loss of
eternal salvation. All, therefore, who after that time (the
promulgation of the Gospel) observe circumcision and the Sabbath and the other
requirements of the law, it declares alien to the Christian faith and not in
the least fit to participate in eternal salvation, unless someday they
recover from these errors.” (Denz. 712)
Notice how the execrable apostate, “Archbishop”
Dore, references Antipope John Paul II’s speech in
1980 (and other statements from Antipope John Paul II) to justify his
apostasy. Notice how he refers to the
Old Covenant as the “First Covenant,” not the “Old” Covenant, because “Old”
implies that it is no longer in force!
Notice how he says that “we must
have the humility” to abandon the Catholic dogma that the Old Covenant has
ceased. Notice how he says that it will
require “a great labor” to extirpate (root out) this dogmatic truth from
Catholic minds. This is the “Archbishop”
of the Vatican II sect in
1 John 2:22 – “Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son.”
Fr. Stephen Abraham, a priest of the Society of St.
Pius X, wrote an open letter in response to this apostasy from the “Archbishop”
of
“Your
Grace, would you prefer that we forgot about the designs of God?” (The Angelus, Feb-March 2004, p. 73)
How can this SSPX priest, and the official
publication of the SSPX, refer to this non-Catholic, blasphemous,
Christ-rejecting apostate, “Archbishop” Dore, as Your Grace? This is simply
an insult to Our Lord Jesus Christ.
John 1:17- “For the
law was given by Moses, grace and
truth came by Jesus Christ.”
Pope Benedict XIV, Ex Quo Primum
(# 61):
“The first consideration is that the ceremonies of
the Mosaic Law were abrogated by the coming of Christ and that they can no
longer be observed without sin after the promulgation of the Gospel.”
Pope Benedict XIV, Ex Quo Primum
(# 59), March 1, 1756:
“However they are
not attempting to observe the precepts
of the old Law which as everybody knows have been revoked by the coming of
Christ.”
Week of 3/12/04
The leader of the Vatican II sect in
L.A., “Cardinal” Roger Mahony, shows us why the
“Church” of John Paul II is not the Catholic Church
On Friday, February 20, 2004, Churchwerks.com hosted an online chat
session with “Cardinal” Roger Mahony that was
moderated by Beliefnet.com.
Leonel M asks: Mel Gibson's upcoming movie "The Passion of the
Christ" has had more than its share of headlines for the last year or
more. But what is the relationship of Gibson's church near Malibu to the
Archdiocese of Los Angeles? Is it part of a schismatic group?
Cardinal Mahony: I know nothing about the
Church in Malibu. It is certainly not in communion with the Universal
Catholic Church nor the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. I have never met Mr.
Gibson, and he does not participate in any parish of this Archdiocese. He,
apparently, has chosen to live apart from the communion of the Catholic Church…
Moderator: We have several
related questions about Mel Gibson; I'll try to summarize them. Many people
have the impression that Mel Gibson is -- for lack of a better word -- a
"regular" Catholic. Could you briefly explain the Catholic
traditionalist movement?
Cardinal Mahony: Actually, there is no such thing
as the "Catholic traditionalist, modernist, movement." Either one
is in full communion with the Catholic Church, in unity with the Successor of
Peter, or not. One cannot pick and choose which Pope to follow, especially
dead ones, or which teaching to follow -- and then set aside the rest. Such people
may be very nice people, but that doesn't make them "Catholic" in the
true sense…
Moderator: So if Mel Gibson does not accept the Church's teachings as
outlined in Vatican II documents, he's "not Catholic in the true
sense"?
Cardinal Mahony: The Sixteen Documents of the
Second Vatican Council constitute the accurate, authentic teaching of the
Church. Those teachings are now contained in the Catechism of the Church. If
one chooses to set aside any of those, then they choose to separate themselves
from the unity of the Church. Keep in mind that the first temptation of
Adam and Eve was precisely this: Satan told them, "you will be like gods,
choosing good and evil.”…
Runecaster95 asks: Is it acceptable for Catholics to participate in acts of devotion
such as Zen meditation and Hindu chanting, providing the emphasis remains on
Christ?
Cardinal Mahony: Any form of prayer and meditation
that helps us deepen our life in Jesus Christ is a positive. We might call the
same type of prayer "centering prayer," or "Christian
mantra."
User barronista asks; "Is that actually a winged
serpent on the door of the new Los Angeles Cathedral? If so what significance
does that have for Catholics? And if it isn't a winged serpent, what is it?”
Cardinal Mahony: Actually, there are many signs
and symbols on the [Cathedral’s] Great Bronze Doors. There are 40 different
religious symbols, all of them portraying God's presence or power in a
variety of faith traditions. Robert Graham's book in the [Cathedral] gift
shop describes each in its totality.
Jane M. asks: Who do you think goes to heaven? Do you think people of other
religions will be there? Do people who haven't accepted Christ as their savior
go to heaven when they die?
Cardinal Mahony: As the Second Vatican Council
teaches us, it is the Church's belief that everyone goes to heaven
"through the salvific merits of Jesus
Christ." Therefore, if they belong to another faith community, we believe
that it is still the merits of Jesus' Paschal Mystery that enables them to
reach the Kingdom of God. Keep in mind
that each of us "chooses" our final destiny, and God continually
calls to us to return home.
Comment: 1) “Cardinal” Mahony
recently presided over a “Mass” in his L.A. Cathedral which included lion
dances, lantern dances [whatever that is], and two 50-foot dragons representing
the god of rainfall (see our News and Commentary section). Mahony is easily
one of the most notorious apostates in the Novus Ordo sect, if not the worst
one in America. Notice that when he was
asked in the interview whether it is necessary to accept Christ to be saved he
did not say yes. He said that Vatican II
teaches that everyone goes to heaven, even
those of different faiths, by Christ, which means that one does not
have to accept Christ to be saved. This
is total heresy, of course. In fact,
during one meeting that Mahony held with Jewish
Rabbis, he stressed that the Church had “adopted an understanding of Judaism in which
there is not the slightest hint of contempt, and not an iota of conversionist agenda.”
Rather than praying for Jews to convert to Catholicism, Mahony said, the Church now calls for Catholics to pray
that Jews remain faithful to their own religion. (Los Angeles Daily News, Dec. 25, 1998, “Healing Rifts,” by Deborah
Sullivan).
However, as bad as this is, those who hold that
John Paul II is the Pope (and therefore a Catholic) must hold that Mahony is a Catholic as well, and that he is the leader and
head of the Catholic Church in Los Angeles – the person with whom all Catholics
in that area must hold communion. Thus,
what Mahony says above in his interview, about how
one is either in union with the Bishops of the Catholic Church or he is not in
communion with the Catholic Church, is actually theologically correct.
St. Ignatius of
Antioch, Letter to the Trallians, (A.D. 110): “He that is within the sanctuary
is pure; but he that is outside the sanctuary is not pure. In
other words, anyone who acts without the bishop and the presbytery and the deacons
does not have a clean conscience.” (Jurgens, F.O.F, Vol. 1:50)
St. Jerome, Commentaries on the Epistle to Titus,
(A.D. 386): “Between heresy and schism there is a distinction made, that heresy
involves perverse doctrine, while schism
separates one from the Church on account of disagreement with the Bishop. (Jurgens, F.O.F,
Vol. 2:1371a)
These statements about union with the Bishop must
be understood with certain proper theological distinctions. If there were a true Catholic Bishop today
who possessed ordinary jurisdiction, then a Catholic could disagree with him on
certain matters. But the point and
meaning of the above quotations from the Fathers, and the point of the apostate
Mahony in the interview, is that no Catholic can be separated from spiritual communion with the
legitimate Bishop (they must have the same faith and government), because
there is a union of faith and government in the Church of Christ.
Pope Pius XII, Mystici Corporis Christi
(# 22):
“As therefore in the true
Christian community there is only one Body, one Spirit, one Lord, and one
Baptism, so there can be only one faith. And therefore if a man refuse to hear the
Church let him be considered – so the Lord commands – as a heathen and a
publican. It follows that those who are divided in faith or
government cannot be living in the unity of such a Body, nor can they
be living the life of its one Divine Spirit.”
Thus, if John Paul II is the Pope, one must hold
communion in faith with his apostate Bishops, such as “Cardinal” Roger Mahony. But this is
obviously absurd, and it shows us why the position of “traditionalists” who
still think John Paul II is the Pope is untenable. If they affirm communion with John Paul II’s Bishops, such as Mahony,
they are denying the faith; and if they deny communion with them (while still
accepting Antipope John Paul II as the Pope) they are adhering to a schismatic
position which separates them from the communion of the hierarchy they
recognize. The only legitimate Catholic position is to acknowledge that
heretics like Mahony and John Paul II are not members
of the Catholic Church, but are outside of it, and therefore they hold no
authority as Bishop or “Pope” (they lose their offices completely).
St. Robert Bellarmine, De
Romano Pontifice, lib. II, cap. 30:"Finally, the Holy Fathers teach
unanimously not only that heretics are outside of the Church, but also that
they are "ipso facto" deprived of all ecclesiastical jurisdiction and
dignity.”
St. Robert Bellarmine, De Romano Pontifice,
II, 30:
"A pope who is a manifest
heretic automatically (per se) ceases to be pope and head,
just as he ceases automatically to be a Christian and a member of the Church.
Wherefore, he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the teaching
of all the ancient Fathers who teach that manifest heretics immediately
lose all jurisdiction."
2) It is also very interesting to note that Roger Mahony tells us that those who don’t accept the apostate
and heretical documents of Vatican II are not in the unity of the Catholic
Church. This is the answer of basically
every Novus Ordo Bishop or apologist, simply because the “Church” of John Paul
II officially and universally accepts the apostate documents of Vatican II as
the authoritative teaching of the Church.
In L’Osservatore Romano (the official Vatican newspaper)
of two weeks ago (Feb. 25, 2004, p. 6/7) there is a huge headline stating: “Council [Vatican II] clearly makes ecumenism
binding as the work of the Spirit.”
Those in communion with John Paul II must accept Vatican II or they are
separating themselves from communion with their “Church” and they are actually
denying Papal Infallibility (as proven in the article, Was Vatican II Infallible?)
3) Notice
that when the apostate Mahony was asked whether the symbol
on his Cathedral was a winged serpent he did not answer the question. This is because it is a winged serpent.
Week of 1/30/04
The Novus Ordo Bishop of Kansas City
denies the Perpetual Virginity of Our Lady
FROM AN ARTICLE IN THE
ANGELUS, publication of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), Dec. 2003, pp.
32-37: “… I pointed out to you [Bishop Boland of Kansas City] that George
Noonan, on the radio program [an allegedly ‘Catholic’ program in Bishop
Boland’s diocese], had denied the necessity of sanctifying grace for the
salvation of one’s soul.
You
[Bishop Boland] immediately defended Mr. Noonan by stating that it is not
necessary for [to have] sanctifying grace to save one’s soul… When I informed you [Bishop Boland]
that George Noonan (on the radio program) was silent as to whether or not he
believed in the principle of logic of non-contradiction, you stated that the law of non-contradiction – where two contradictory
statements could not both be true – was in fact, false… During our
conversation, we also got off on a tangent as regards the lack of respect shown
by Rabbi Michael Zedik concerning the Blessed Mother
and how George Noonan, as the Catholic co-host, did not defend Our Lady’s
dignity as being a perpetual virgin. You indicated
that it has yet to be proven that Our Lady did not have any children other than
Our Lord… This quickly led into our last discussion in which you
stated that the Church’s doctrine can change and has changed. My father and I
wholeheartedly disagreed with you on this point…”
Comment: Would you believe that “Bishop” Boland is the “head” of the
Novus Ordo sect in Kansas City?
Pope Pius IX, First
Vatican Council, Session 4, Chap. 3, ex
cathedra:
"This power of the Supreme Pontiff is so far from interfering with that
power of ordinary and immediate Episcopal jurisdiction by which the bishops… have succeeded to the places
of the apostles, as true shepherds individually feed and rule the individual flocks entrusted to them."
“Bishop” Boland denies that sanctifying grace is
necessary for salvation; he denies the law of non-contradiction; he denies the
perpetual virginity of Our Lady; and he holds that Catholic doctrine can
change. Bishop Boland is an anathematized
heretic.
Pope St. Siricius, epistle (9) Accepi litteras vestras,
392:
“Surely, we cannot
deny that regarding the sons of Mary the
statement is justly censured, and your holiness has rightly abhorred it, that
from the same virginal womb, from which according to the flesh Christ was born,
another offspring was brought forth.
For neither would the Lord Jesus have chosen to be born of a virgin, if
he had judged she would be so incontinent, that with the seed of human
copulation she would pollute that generative chamber of the Lord’s body, that
palace of the eternal King. For he who imputes this, imputes nothing
other than the falsehood of the Jews, who say that he could not have been
born of a virgin. For, if they accept
this authority from the priests, that Mary seems to have brought forth many
children, they strive to sweep away the truth of the faith with greater zeal.”
(Denz. 91)
Pope Innocent IV, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215, ex
cathedra: “…Jesus Christ, incarnate by the whole Trinity in common, conceived
of Mary ever Virgin…” (Denz. 429)
Pope Gregory X, Council of Lyons II, 1274, ex cathedra:
“… the Son of God… temporally born from the Holy Spirit and Mary ever Virgin…” (Denz.
462)
Pope Paul IV, Cum quorundam, Council of Trent, 1555: “… the most blessed and ever Virgin Mary…” (Denz.
993)
Pope Martin I, First Lateran Council, 649, Can. 3: “If anyone does not properly and truly
confess in accord with the holy Fathers, that the holy Mother of God and
ever Virgin and immaculate Mary… her
virginity remaining indestructible even after His birth, let him be condemned.”
(Denz. 256)
“Bishop” Boland is obviously not the visible head
and authority of the Catholic Church in Kansas City, but the ruler of a
non-Catholic sect which poses as the Catholic Church in Kansas City (the
Vatican II/Novus Ordo sect). And as
incredibly heretical as he is, “Bishop” Boland is probably average among the
Novus Ordo Bishops. But groups like the
SSPX still recognize Boland as a Catholic and the head of their diocese; their
priests in Kansas City pray for him as their legitimate Bishop each Sunday at
Mass; and they continue to call him “Your Excellency”! Since they are obstinate in this position,
this is disgusting to God and to Our Lady.
FROM THE SAME ARTICLE IN THE
ANGELUS, publication of the SSPX, Dec. 2003, pp. 33-37: “Your Excellency…
Your Excellency… Your Excellency… Your Excellency… Most of all, Your
Excellency... Your Excellency… May God
bless you [Bishop Boland] in your work as Bishop of our diocese so that the
Traditional Catholic Faith is nourished and spreads such that your crown in heaven is ornamented by the many souls
entrusted to your spiritual care.”
The last letter alone which was sent to “Bishop”
Boland and published in The Angelus
(publication of the SSPX) referred to him as “Your Excellency” at least six
times! It’s outrageous that they refer
to this non-Catholic heretic, blasphemer of Our Lady, and total apostate from
the Catholic Faith – who holds that dogma can change – as “Your Excellency.”
It’s outrageous that the SSPX considers Boland the legitimate Catholic Bishop
to whom they are subject and with whom they claim to share communion. The words quoted in the above article from The Angelus were not penned by a priest
of the Society of St. Pius X, but by a person who attends the SSPX – and let’s
hope that he comes around to see the truth that Antipope John Paul II and his
Bishops are outside the Church of Christ, not in charge of it! – but his words
show the mentality and the corrupt faith that is being sown by the SSPX
priests among the people. They are
corrupting people’s faith by their untenable position, which recognizes
heretics as Catholics and non-Catholic “Bishops” as the legitimate hierarchy of
the Catholic Church. And this is not to
single out the SSPX, for many other independent priests – and all who obstinately believe that Antipope John
Paul II is the Pope – such as Fr. James Wathen and
Fr. Gavin Bitzer (to name just two), cling on to the
same heretical position vis-ŕ-vis the apostate bishops of the Novus Ordo sect.
Pope St. Celestine,
quoted by St. Robert Bellarmine, De Romano Pontifice, lib. II, cap. 30: “The authority of Our Apostolic See has
determined that the bishop, cleric, or simple Christian who had been
deposed or excommunicated by Nestorius [Bishop of Constantinople] or his
followers, after the latter [Nestorius]
began to preach heresy shall not be considered deposed or
excommunicated. For he who had defected from the faith
with such preachings, cannot depose or remove anyone
whatsoever.”
St. Robert Bellarmine, De
Romano Pontifice, lib. II, cap. 30:"Finally, the Holy Fathers teach
unanimously not only that heretics are outside of the Church, but also that
they are "ipso facto" deprived of all ecclesiastical jurisdiction and
dignity.”
Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (#15), June 29, 1896:
“No one, therefore, unless in communion with
Peter can share in his authority, since IT IS ABSURD TO IMAGINE
THAT HE WHO IS OUTSIDE CAN COMMAND IN THE CHURCH.”
Week of 1/23/04 – Major Heresy
Antipope John Paul II appoints an apostate
Jew as the New Bishop in Jerusalem!
(FROM ISRAEL TODAY, JAN.22, 2004) “NEW BISHOP IN JERUSALEM IS JEWISH – For the first time since the
Apostle James served as bishop of Jerusalem, the Holy City has a Jewish
bishop! Benedictine Abbot Jean-Baptiste Gourion was ordained as the new bishop at the Catholic
church in Kiryat Ye’arim,
above the Israeli Arab village of Abu Ghosh near
Jerusalem. Bishop Gourion
will be responsible for the Hebrew-speaking Catholic community in Israel, many
of whom are of Jewish origin... Explaining how he (Bishop Gourion),
as a Jew, became a Catholic, he told us: ‘For
me, Christianity and Judaism are the same. I didn’t have to leave Judaism to
come to Christianity. The
Jew and the Christian form the same body.”
As such, he makes it clear that he will
not engage in ‘missionary’ activities…
After his ordination, Israel today editor Aviel
Schneider interviewed the new bishop.
Israel
today: Congratulations, Bishop Gourion…
How did your family react to your new title of bishop?
Bishop Gourion: I have a very close
relationship with my three siblings, who attended my ordination in Jerusalem
and gave me God’s blessing. All in all, I think my appointment by the Catholic
Church points to a new era between Jews and Catholic Christians. We have to
learn to understand each other better. The Catholic Church has no intention
of converting Jews to Christianity. Therefore, the
Pope advocated a Jewish bishop in Israel…
Israel
today: …the Vatican was reluctant to recognize the Jewish state,
establishing diplomatic ties with Israel just 10 years ago. One of the reasons
is that the Catholic Church thinks of itself as God’s chosen people.
Bishop Gourion: Well, 40 years ago in the
Second Vatican Council, the Church adopted a new theological position toward
Israel as God’s chosen people. The Catholic Church does not replace the Jewish people
with whom God made an eternal covenant…
Israel
today: Do you still think of yourself as part of the Jewish
people?
Bishop Gourion: Sure. I see myself as a Jew.”
Comment: “Bishop” Gourion is the new auxiliary Bishop
of the Church of John Paul II in Jerusalem. In fact, as Gourion
says in the interview, John Paul II specifically appointed Gourion to Jerusalem because of who he is and what he
believes. Does one really need to say
any more to prove that the Church of John Paul II is the counterfeit “Church”
of the Antichrist? The fact that many
who claim to be “traditional Catholics” still assert that Antipope John Paul II
and his bishops are Catholic is simply a sick
joke. Stop blaspheming Our Lord
Jesus Christ and His Holy Catholic Church!
The “New Bishop” in Jerusalem Gourion says
that he is “a Jew”; that the Church of John Paul II “has no intention of converting
Jews to Christianity”; that the Jewish covenant with God is still valid
and not replaced by the Catholic Church.
To those blind fools and blasphemers who obstinately defend that Antipope John Paul II is the Pope, some of
whom pose as “traditional Catholics,” I say: Are you going to tell us that
“Bishop” Gourion is a Catholic? Is “Bishop” Gourion
a Bishop in your “Church” – yes or no?
Pope Pius XII, Mystici Corporis Christi
(# 22), June 29, 1943:
“As therefore in the true Christian
community there is only one Body, one Spirit, one Lord, and one Baptism, so
there can be only one faith. And therefore if a man refuse to hear the
Church let him be considered – so the Lord commands – as a heathen and a
publican. It follows that those who are divided in faith or
government cannot be living in the unity of such a Body, nor can they
be living the life of its one Divine Spirit.”
To assert that Gourion