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The Great Western
Schism (1378-1417)
and what it teaches
us about the post-Vatican II apostasy
By Bro. Peter Dimond, O.S.B.
-Massive
confusion, multiple antipopes, antipopes in
The Breakdown of
the Great Western Schism
The Popes Avignon Line (antipopes) Pisan Line (antipopes)
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Urban
VI (1378-1389) ▼ Boniface
IX (1389-1404) ▼ Innocent
VII (1404-1406) ▼ Gregory
XII (1406-1415) The least supported
pope in history, least recognized of the three claimants, rejected by almost
all of Christendom |
Clement
VII (1378-1394) recognized
by all the living cardinals who had
elected Urban VI ▼ Benedict
XIII (1394-1417) recognized
by St. Vincent Ferrer for a time |
*line
favored by most theologians of the time, elected by cardinals from both
camps* Alexander
V (elected by cardinals at ▼ John
XXIII (1410-1415) reigned
in |
|
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Resolved with the
election of Pope Martin V, 1417 at the C. of Constance |
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How it all happened
The
conclave in the
“In a fury the mob now began throwing
stones at the windows of the palace and attacking the doors with picks and
axes. There was no effective defending
force; the crowd stormed in.”[2]
Eventually
an Italian, Pope Urban VI, was elected by 16 cardinals. The new pope asked the cardinals if they had
elected him freely and canonically; they said they had. Shortly after the election, the 16 who had
elected Urban VI wrote to the six cardinals who had remained stubbornly in
“We have given our votes for Bartolomeo,
the Archbishop of Bari [Urban VI], who is conspicuous for his great merits and
whose manifold virtues make him a shining example; we have in full agreement
elevated him to the summit of apostolic excellence and have announced our
choice to the multitude of Christians.”[3]
CARDINALS REJECT
POPE URBAN VI UNDER PRETEXT OF THE UNRULY ROMAN MOB
Shortly
after his election, however, Pope Urban VI began to alienate the cardinals.
“The
French cardinals, who formed the majority in the Sacred College, were dissatisfied
with the city and wished to return to Avignon, where there were no
dilapidated basilicas and ruined palaces, no tumultuous Roman mobs and deadly
Roman fevers; where life was, in a word, more comfortable. Urban
VI refused to leave Rome, and his stern resolve, intimated to them in no
mincing words, to reform the Papal court and break down the luxury of its life,
gave deep offense to the cardinals.”[4]
One
by one the cardinals went to Anagni in
After
the news of the cardinals’ decision to repudiate Urban VI had been circulated,
the canonist Baldus, considered the most famous jurist of the day, published a
treatise disagreeing with their decision.
In it, he stated:
“there were no grounds on which the
cardinals could repudiate a pope once they had elected him, and none on which the Church as a whole could
depose him, except persistent and
open heresy.”[6]
Despite
the imprecision in this statement by Baldus – for a true pope can never be
deposed; a heretic deposes himself – we
can clearly see in his words the commonly acknowledged truth that a claimant to
the Papacy who is openly and persistently heretical can be rejected as a non-pope,
since he is outside the Church.
ALL LIVING
CARDINALS REJECT URBAN VI AND RECOGNIZE AN ANTIPOPE
On
July 20, 1378, 15 of the 16 cardinals
who had elected Pope Urban VI withdrew from his obedience on the grounds
that the unruly Roman mob had made the election uncanonical. The one cardinal who did not repudiate Pope
Urban VI was Cardinal Tebaldeschi, but he died shortly thereafter, on Sept. 7 –
leaving a situation where not one of the
cardinals of the Catholic Church recognized the true pope, Urban VI. All of
the living cardinals now regarded his election as invalid.[7]
After
repudiating Urban VI, on Sept. 20, 1378, the cardinals proceeded to elect
Clement VII as “pope,” who set up his rival “Papacy” in
“The rebel cardinals then wrote to the
European courts explaining their action.
Charles V of
Even
though the validity of the election of Urban VI was ascertainable, one can
see why many were taken in by the argument that the Roman mob had unlawfully
influenced his election, thereby rendering it uncanonical. Moreover, one can see how the position of
Antipope Clement VII was strengthened considerably and imposingly in the eyes
of many by the fact that 15 out of the 16 cardinals who had elected Urban VI
came to repudiate his election as invalid.
The situation that resulted after Antipope Clement VII’s acceptance by
the cardinals was a nightmare, a nightmare from the very beginning – a
nightmare which shows us how bad and confusing God will sometimes
allow things to get, without
violating the essential promises He made to His Church:
“The schism was now an accomplished fact,
and for forty years Christendom was
treated with the melancholy spectacle of two and even three rival popes
claiming its allegiance. It was the most perilous crisis through
which the Church had ever passed.
Both popes declared a crusade against each other. Each of the popes claimed the
right to create cardinals and to confirm archbishops, bishops, and abbots, so
that there were two Colleges of Cardinals and in many places two claimants for
the high positions in the Church.
Each pope attempted to collect all the ecclesiastical revenues, and each
excommunicated the other with all his adherents.”[9]
The
spectacle continued as popes and antipopes alike died, only to be succeeded by
more. Pope Urban VI died in 1389, and
was succeeded by Pope Boniface IX who reigned from 1389 to 1404. After Boniface IX’s election, he was promptly
excommunicated by Antipope Clement VII, and he responded by excommunicating
him.
During
his reign, Pope Boniface IX “was unable
to enlarge his sphere of influence in Europe;
CARDINALS OF BOTH
CAMPS TAKE AN OATH TO WORK TO END THE SCHISM PRIOR TO PARTICIPATING IN NEW
ELECTIONS, WHICH DEMONSTRATES HOW BAD THE SITUATION HAD BECOME
Meanwhile,
at
The
cardinals at
As
a cardinal, Antipope Benedict XIII had originally taken part himself in the
election of Pope Urban VI, and then abandoned Urban and helped elect Clement
(having, of course, been convinced that Urban’s election was invalid). As a cardinal under Antipope Clement VII,
Benedict XIII “went to the Iberian peninsula for eleven years as his legate,
and by his diplomacy swung
After
having sworn to pursue the path of abdication in order to end the schism if the
majority of his cardinals agreed, Antipope Benedict XIII alienated many of his
cardinals when he went back on his promise and showed himself unwilling to
consider abdication, even though the majority of his cardinals wanted him
to. His rival, Pope Boniface IX, was
equally unwilling.
In
1404, Pope Boniface IX (the successor to Urban VI) died, and Pope Innocent VII
was elected as his successor by the eight cardinals available. Pope Innocent VII didn’t live long, however;
he died just two years later, in 1406.
During his short reign, Innocent VII had remained opposed to meeting
with the
As
the schism persisted, members of both camps became increasingly frustrated with
both claimants’ unwillingness to take effective measures to end the schism.
“Voices
were heard on all sides demanding that union be restored. The University of
In
accordance with this widespread sentiment to take effective action to end the
schism, another oath was taken before the election of Pope Innocent VII’s
successor.
“… each
of the fourteen cardinals at the conclave following [Pope] Innocent VII’s death
swore that, if elected, he would abdicate provided Antipope Benedict XIII
did the same or should die; also that he would not create new cardinals except
to maintain parity of numbers with the Avignon cardinals, and that within three
months he would enter into negotiations with his rival about a place of
meeting.”[15]
The
very fact that the cardinals preparing to elect a true pope took an oath such
as this – which included negotiations with an antipope – shows how horrible the
situation was during the schism, and how much support the antipope had in
Christendom.
The
conclave proceeded to elect Pope Gregory XII on Nov. 30, 1406. Hope that the end of the schism would come
was renewed by Pope Gregory XII’s negotiations with Antipope Benedict XIII. The two even agreed on a place to meet, but
Pope Gregory XII wavered; he feared (and rightly so) the sincerity of Antipope
Benedict XIII’s intentions. Pope Gregory
XII was also influenced against the path of resignation by some of his close relatives,
who painted a negative picture of what might happen if he resigned.
CARDINALS FROM BOTH
CAMPS GET FED UP, GO TO
“As
the negotiations [between Pope Gregory XII and Antipope Benedict XIII] dragged
on, Gregory’s cardinals became increasingly restive. An open break became inevitable when Gregory,
suspicious of their loyalty, broke his pre-election promise and on 4 May
announced the creation of four new cardinals…
All but three of his original
college now left him and fled to
The 14 cardinals
who left Pope Gregory XII’s obedience and fled to
“In the eyes of the world the Council of
Pisa was indeed a glittering assembly, attended by 24 cardinals (fourteen
formerly adhering to Pope Gregory XII, ten to de Luna [Benedict XIII]… four patriarchs,
80 bishops, 89 abbots, 41 priors, the heads of four religious orders, and
representatives of virtually every university, crowned head, and great noble
house in Catholic Europe.”[17]
The
Cardinal Archbishop of
It
must be stressed that, at this point in the schism (1409), people were so
exasperated with the enduring disunion and the broken promises of the two
claimants that the assembly at
Fr. John Laux, Church History, p. 405: “There were now three popes, and three
Colleges of Cardinals, in some dioceses three rival bishops, and in some
Religious Orders three rival superiors.”
THE THIRD CLAIMANT,
THE PISAN ANTIPOPE, HELD THE WIDEST SUPPORT AND THE BACKING OF MOST OF THE
THEOLOGIANS BECAUSE HE HAD APPEARANCE OF BEING THE UNITED CHOICE OF CARDINALS
FROM BOTH CAMPS
The newly elected
Pisan antipope, Alexander V, had the widest support in Christendom among the
three claimants. The true pope,
Gregory XII, had the least.
From the beginning Alexander V “had the
support of
Most of the learned
theologians and canonists of the time favored the Pisan line of antipopes.
“Through the fall of 1408 and the winter of
1409 debate continued to rage among the theologians and canonists. Most of them, in varying degrees of
desperation, now favored the council regardless of who the true pope might be
or how it was to be authorized.”[19]
NO TRUE POPE IN
HISTORY HAD AS LITTLE SUPPORT AS POPE GREGORY XII NEAR THE END OF THE GREAT
WESTERN SCHISM
In
1411, the newly elected Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund followed the general
sentiment and abandoned the true pope, Gregory XII.
“Sigismund wanted unanimous electoral
endorsement, and in view of the
widespread abandonment of Gregory XII by many of those who had previously
obeyed him (notably in
The
newly elected Pisan antipope, Alexander V, didn’t live long. He died less than a year after his election,
in May of 1410. To succeed him, on May
17, 1410, the Pisan cardinals unanimously elected Baldassare Cossa as John XXIII. Like his predecessor Antipope Alexander V,
John XXIII also held the widest support among the three claimants.
“While
there were still three claimants to the papacy, John [XXIII] commanded much
the widest support, with
As
we see, Antipope John XXIII was able to reign in
During
the 4th year of his reign as antipope, Antipope John XXIII summoned
the Council of Constance in 1414, at the insistence of the Emperor
Sigismund. It’s quite interesting to
note that the recent John XXIII also called Vatican II in the 4th
year of his reign, 1962. And like
Vatican II, the Council of Constance began as a false council, having been
called by an antipope.
At
this point in the schism, the Emperor Sigismund was determined to unite
Christendom by working for the abdication of all three claimants. When Antipope John XXIII realized that he
would not be accepted as the true pope at the Council of Constance, he fled
from the council. “That evening Cossa
fled Constance, riding on a small dark horse (in contrast to the nine white
horses behind which he had entered the city in October), huddled in a large
gray cloak wrapped round and round him to hide most of his face and body…”[22]
Antipope
John XXIII was then formally condemned by the council as deposed. An order was sent out by the Emperor for his
arrest; he was apprehended and thrown into prison. In prison, Antipope John XXIII “surrendered
his papal seal and the fisherman’s ring, with tears, to representatives of the
council.” He accepted the verdict
against him without protest.[23]
“When
the Council of Constance (reckoned in part or whole the Sixteenth General,
1414-1417)… had deposed John, it entered into negotiations with Gregory, who
conveyed to it his willingness to abdicate provided he was allowed formally to
convoke the assembled prelates and dignitaries afresh as a general council;
as pope he could not recognize one called by John. This procedure was accepted, and at the 14th
solemn session, on 4 July 1415, his cardinal John Dominici read out his bull
convoking the council, whereupon Carlo Malatesta [Pope Gregory XII]
announced his resignation. The two
colleges of cardinals were united, Gregory’s acts in his pontificate were
ratified…”[24]
So,
after Antipope John XXIII was deposed, Pope Gregory XII agreed to convoke the
Council of Constance (in order to confer upon it Papal legitimacy, which
Antipope John XXIII could not give it) and then resign in the hope of ending
the schism.
Meanwhile,
Antipope Benedict XIII (the
“Sigismund, who had done all in his power
to induce Benedict XIII, of the
Both
antipopes having been disposed of, and the true pope having resigned, the
Council of Constance proceeded to elect Pope Martin V on Nov. 11, 1417,
bringing an official end to the Great Western Schism. (The
CONCLUSION: WHAT
THE GREAT WESTERN SCHISM TEACHES US FOR OUR TIME
In
this article we have reviewed one of the important chapters in Church
history. In the process we have seen a
number of very important things – things quite relevant to our present
situation.
•
We’ve seen that antipopes can exist.
•
We’ve seen that antipopes can reign from
•
We’ve seen that all of the living cardinals, shortly after the election of Pope
Urban VI, repudiated him (the true pope) and recognized Antipope Clement
VII. This illustrates that it’s not at
all incompatible with indefectibility (i.e., the promises of Christ to be with
His Church and the Papacy until the end of time) for all the cardinals
to recognize an antipope.
•
We’ve seen that most of the theologians of the time favored the third line, the
Pisan line of antipopes. This line of
antipopes must have seemed like an attractive option for many because cardinals
from both camps supported it. This shows
us how deceptive God will sometimes allow things to get without violating the
essential promises He made to His Church.
Moreover, the majority of theologians’ support for the Pisan line
demonstrates clearly that the common teaching of theologians on a particular
matter (e.g., salvation), no matter how learned they are, is not binding,
contrary to what some are asserting today.
•
We’ve also seen that the principle that an open heretic cannot be regarded as
the pope is ancient and was expressed by the leading canonist of the time,
Baldus.
•
We’ve seen that things were so bad and so desperate during the Great Western
Schism that people didn’t see any way out of this disaster – a disaster in
which people were offered, at one point, three rival bishops, three rival
religious superiors, and three rival claimants to the Papacy excommunicating
one another.
•
Learning this can help us see clearly
that what we have proven on doctrinal grounds, namely, that there has been a
line of antipopes since Vatican II that has foisted upon the world a new counterfeit
religion, which has reduced the true Catholic Church to a remnant (in
fulfillment of Scriptural and Catholic prophecies about the deception of the
Great Apostasy and the last days), is not a PATENT ABSURDITY, as some have
wrongly said.
On the contrary, if
God allowed the aforementioned disaster to occur during the Great Western
Schism (which could have been, at worst, just a prelude to the Great Apostasy),
with multiple antipopes reigning at once and the true pope the weakest of
the three, what kind of disaster and deception would He allow with
antipopes (without ever violating the essential promises He made to His Church)
during the final spiritual tribulation, which will be the most deceptive of
them all? It is a PATENT ABSURDITY,
and directly refuted by Catholic teaching and the facts of Church history, to
assert that a line of antipopes which has created a counterfeit sect to oppose
the true Church is an impossibility.
Further, it is outrageous in the extreme to assert that such a situation
is “patently absurd” after having reviewed the undeniable facts we have put
forward to prove it true.
I
will end this article by quoting Fr. Edmund James O’Reilly, S.J. He had some very interesting things to about
the Great Western Schism in his book The
Relations of the Church to Society – Theological Essays, written in
1882. In the process he mentions the
possibility of a papal interregnum (a period without a pope) covering the whole
period of the Great Western Schism (almost 40 years).
We
begin with a quote from Father O’Reilly’s discussion of the Great Western
Schism.
“We may here stop to inquire what is to be
said of the position, at that time, of the three claimants, and their rights
with regard to the Papacy. In the first
place, there was all through, from the death of Gregory XI in 1378, a Pope –
with the exception, of course, of the intervals between deaths and elections to
fill up the vacancies thereby created.
There was, I say, at every given time a Pope, really invested with the
dignity of the Vicar of Christ and Head of the Church, whatever opinions might
exist among many as to his genuineness; not that an interregnum covering the
whole period would have been impossible or inconsistent with the promises of
Christ, for this is by no means manifest, but that, as a matter of
fact, there was not such an interregnum.”[26]
Fr.
O’Reilly says that an interregnum (a period without a pope) covering the whole
period of the Great Western Schism is by no means incompatible with the
promises of Christ about His Church. The
period Fr. O’Reilly is speaking of began in 1378 with the death of Pope Gregory
XI and ended essentially in 1417 with the election of Pope Martin V. That’s
a thirty-nine year interregnum!
Writing
after the First Vatican Council, it is
obvious that Fr. O’Reilly is on the side of those who, in rejecting Antipopes
John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II and Benedict XVI, hold the
possibility of a long-term vacancy of the Holy See. In fact, on page 287 of his book Fr. O’Reilly
gives this prophetic warning:
“The great schism of the West suggests to
me a reflection which I take the liberty of expressing here. If this schism had not occurred, the
hypothesis of such a thing happening would appear to many chimerical
(absurd). They would say it could not
be; God would not permit the Church to come into so unhappy a situation. Heresies might spring up and spread and last
painfully long, through the fault and to the perdition of their authors and
abettors, to the great distress too of the faithful, increased by actual
persecution in many places where the heretics were dominant. But that the true Church should remain
between thirty and forty years without a thoroughly ascertained Head, and
representative of Christ on earth, this would not be. Yet
it has been; and we have no
guarantee that it will not be again, though we may fervently hope
otherwise. What I would infer is, that we
must not be too ready to pronounce on what God may permit. We know with absolute certainty that He will
fulfill His promises… We may also trust that He will do a great deal
more than what He has bound Himself by his promises. We may look forward with cheering probability
to exemption for the future from some of the trouble and misfortunes that have
befallen in the past. But
we, or our successors in the future generations of Christians, shall perhaps
see stranger evils than have yet been experienced, even before the
immediate approach of that great winding up of all things on earth that will
precede the day of judgment. I am not
setting up for a prophet, nor pretending to see unhappy wonders, of which I
have no knowledge whatever. All
I mean to convey is that contingencies regarding the Church, not excluded by
the Divine promises, cannot be regarded as practically impossible, just because
they would be terrible and distressing in a very high degree.”[27]
Fr.
O’Reilly is saying that if the Great Western Schism had never occurred people
would say that such a situation is impossible and incompatible with the
promises of Christ to His Church, and that we cannot dismiss the possibility of
similar and perhaps worse things in the future because they would be
distressing in a very high degree.
APPENDIX: CATHOLIC TEACHING THAT A HERETIC CANNOT
BE A TRUE POPE
Pope Paul IV, Bull Cum ex Apostolatus Officio, Feb. 15, 1559: “6. In addition,
[by this Our Constitution, which is to remain valid in perpetuity We enact,
determine, decree and define:-] that if ever at any time it shall appear
that any Bishop, even if he be acting as an Archbishop, Patriarch or Primate;
or any Cardinal of the aforesaid Roman Church, or, as has already been
mentioned, any legate, or even the Roman Pontiff, prior to his promotion or his
elevation as Cardinal or Roman Pontiff, has deviated from the Catholic Faith or
fallen into some heresy:
(i) the promotion or elevation, even
if it shall have been uncontested and by the unanimous assent of all the
Cardinals, shall be null, void and worthless;
(ii) it shall not be possible for it to acquire
validity (nor for it to be said that it has thus acquired validity) through the
acceptance of the office, of consecration, of subsequent authority, nor through
possession of administration, nor through the putative enthronement of a Roman
Pontiff, or Veneration, or obedience accorded to such by all, nor through the
lapse of any period of time in the foregoing situation;
(iii) it shall not be held as partially
legitimate in any way…
(vi)
those thus promoted or elevated shall
be deprived automatically, and without need for any further declaration, of all
dignity, position, honour, title, authority, office and power….
10. No one at all, therefore, may infringe this document of our
approbation, re-introduction, sanction, statute and derogation of wills and
decrees, or by rash presumption contradict it. If anyone, however, should presume to attempt this, let him know that
he is destined to incur the wrath of Almighty God and of the blessed Apostles,
Peter and Paul.
Given in Rome at Saint Peter's in the year of the Incarnation of the Lord 1559,
15th February, in the fourth year of our Pontificate.
+ I, Paul, Bishop of the Catholic Church…”
St. Robert Bellarmine: “A pope
who is a manifest heretic automatically (per
se) ceases to be pope and head, just
as he ceases automatically to be a Christian and a member of the Church. Wherefore, he can be judged and punished by
the Church. This is the teaching of all the ancient Fathers who teach that
manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction.” (De Romano Pontifice, II, 30)
The Catholic
Encyclopedia,
“Papal Elections,” 1914, Vol. 11, p. 456: "Of course, the election of a heretic, schismatic, or female
[as Pope] would be null and void."
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[1] J.N.D. Kelly, Oxford Dictionary of Popes, Oxford University Press, 1986, p. 227.
[2] Warren H. Carroll, A History of Christendom, Vol. 3 (The Glory of Christendom), Front Royal,
VA: Christendom Press, p. 429.
[3] Warren H. Carroll, A History of Christendom, Vol. 3 (The Glory of Christendom), p. 431.
[4] Fr. John Laux, Church History, Rockford, IL: Tan Books,
p. 404.
[5] Warren H. Carroll,
A History of Christendom, Vol. 3 (The Glory of Christendom), pp. 432-433.
[6] Quoted by Warren
H. Carroll, A History of Christendom,
Vol. 3 (The Glory of Christendom), p.
433.
[7] Warren H. Carroll, A History of Christendom, Vol. 3 (The Glory of Christendom), pp. 432-434.
[8] Fr. John Laux, Church History, p. 404.
[9] Fr. John Laux, Church History, p. 405.
[10] J.N.D. Kelly, Oxford Dictionary of Popes, p. 231.
[11] J.N.D. Kelly, Oxford Dictionary of Popes, p. 232.
[12] Fr. Andrew Pradel, St. Vincent Ferrer: The Angel of the
Judgment, Tan Books, 2000, p. 39.
[13] J.N.D. Kelly, Oxford Dictionary of Popes, p. 237.
[14] Fr. John Laux, Church History, p.
405.
[15] J.N.D. Kelly, Oxford Dictionary of Popes, p. 235.
[16] J.N.D. Kelly, Oxford Dictionary of Popes, p. 235.
[17] Warren H. Carroll, A History of Christendom, Vol. 3 (The Glory of Christendom), p. 472.
[18] Warren H. Carroll, A History of Christendom, Vol. 3 (The Glory of Christendom), pp. 473-474.
[19] Warren H. Carroll, A History of Christendom, Vol. 3 (The Glory of Christendom), p. 471.
[20] Warren H. Carroll, A History of Christendom, Vol. 3 (The Glory of Christendom), p. 479.
[21] J.N.D. Kelly, Oxford Dictionary of Popes, p. 238.
[22] Warren H. Carroll, A History of Christendom, Vol. 3 (The Glory of Christendom), p. 485.
[23] Warren H. Carroll, A History of Christendom, Vol. 3 (The Glory of Christendom), p. 487.
[24] J.N.D. Kelly, Oxford Dictionary of Popes, p. 236.
[25] Fr. John Laux, Church History, p. 408.
[26] Fr. James Edmund O’Reilly, The Relations of the Church to Society –
Theological Essays.
[27] Fr. James Edmund O’Reilly, p. 287.